Rio Ferdinand Racially Abused

BoroMart said:
The old allusion that people's views on you are wrong, without any explanation of what you did mean, it usually means the view on you was right but you don't want to admit it.

Well explain because you seem to think todays progressive society is a mess and making monkey chants is fine, you can't blame anyone but yourself for thinking my comments are your view.

I mean feel free to explain why making monkey chants is not racist?

Feel free to explain why a world where people are arrested and band from football for being racist is bad?

I'll await your avoidance of a straight answer with baited breath...
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Kindly point out to me where I have said that I think it’s fine to make monkey chants and I will offer you an explanation. Until then I will treat you with the contempt you deserve.
While you’re at it, why don’t you point out where I said I would slap a woman around or give someone with different sexual preferences a kicking.
More assumptions based on very little fact!
 
Jonny2773 said:
Kindly point out to me where I have said that I think it’s fine to make monkey chants and I will offer you an explanation. Until then I will treat you with the contempt you deserve.
While you’re at it, why don’t you point out where I said I would slap a woman around or give someone with different sexual preferences a kicking.
More assumptions based on very little fact!
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I don’t know you. No problem with you. Your comment was designed with the intention of getting a bite or two, you certainly succeeded.
 
NoloBoro said:
I think it’s quite easy to discern what those morons were attempting to convey to Ferdinand by their actions. So it’s a quite deliberate act.
It’s my opinion that they should be identified and dealt with.
If you were employed by me and I saw you carrying out such actions you would be looking for another job.
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You’re quite right and at not point have I condoned the actions, however, I think you would be putting yourself on very dangerous ground sacking someone until it’s been proven that they were indeed being racist.
Not everything is as black and white as it seems and sometimes ppl get it wrong by jumping to conclusions, maybe not this time, but they do
 
Jonny2773 said:
Why does making a monkey chant towards him have to be automatically seen as racism
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You asked me to show where you said it was fine to makee monkey chants? Well your first post on this thread made it clear that you could perceive it was fine, so your quote above.

So it's over to you, you can chose to explain why you feel monkey chants are not always racist, and what actual context a football supporter making monkey chants to a black man isn't racist abuse? Go for it, I'm all ears, or you can put the spade down and stop digging that hole all the way to New Zealand.
 
BoroMart said:
You asked me to show where you said it was fine to makee monkey chants? Well your first post on this thread made it clear that you could perceive it was fine, so your quote above.

So it's over to you, you can chose to explain why you feel monkey chants are not always racist, and what actual context a football supporter making monkey chants to a black man isn't racist abuse? Go for it, I'm all ears, or you can put the spade down and stop digging that hole all the way to New Zealand.
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So you can’t show me where I’ve said any of it? Didn’t think so!
 
Jonny,

It's disgusting behaviour for anyone to mimic or goad another person either in the workplace or in public no matter
the colour of their skin, religion or disability.
Hope that helps to clear it up for you and help you understand why so many here are offended.

What irritates me is the fact that we have younger readers on here and the last thing that we need in the world
right now is people like you casting seeds of doubt in their young minds.
Shameful.
 
Someone earlier in this thread finds it 'equally disgraceful' as racism that a person after having behaved in a clear racist manner at a football match is berated by the general public??

This is another reason the problem is seemingly worsening, not going away. Things are all open to debate and that's fair, but this guy was shown to have done exactly what was reported more or less as it happened and now looking at a lifetime ban from the ground. I don't understand the urge to groan about the negative reaction an individual such as this receives if they've just behaved like a complete tw@t in public unless you feel you have something in common with said person, and secretly have an urge to encourage it ... I am having a little trouble understanding the point in it otherwise?

Far as I could see, there were no hysterical reactions and 'snowflake '/PC types who couldn't wait to jump online to get a dig in, if that were the case though before absolute confirmation it occurred (coz I guess it's hard to believe something like this could happen in this country!) it would have been just as ugly as racism, eh?? ...

People have rightly been criticising the man and angry because he's a racist. We don't want his kind in the stands. I am not sure how one could have reasonably doubted what happened and I don't understand the urge to stick a 'yeah, but .. ' in each time something like this happens nowadays unless one thinks what the likes of this guy does is acceptable.

Perhaps, if given the benefit of the doubt the comment wasn't intended as such as the poster didn't know exactly what had occurred, you saw the reaction before anything else .. but why do I feel it was more likely done in defense of this man. It happens all the time. A way of gently letting everyone know 'Nah, actually, this kind of thing is perfectly OK' .. ordinary people, politicians, the lot do it often nowadays. Or maybe they just enjoy winding people up, you're all just lovely folk really, who like a bit of a laugh.

Former GOP US Senator Rick Santorum, a political commentator on the likes of CNN, etc has always been absolutely typical of this kind. It was only the other day he made the remark that 'there was nothing in America before white people showed up' .. finally got that off his chest - they are getting more and more airtime since Trumpism (though not the sole reason), so the news networks are responsible also for giving idiots who spout such nonsense a platform. Don't even get me started on social media!

So given this situation today, the reaction was far from being equally disgraceful as racism in this instance, I'm pretty sure that's fair to say. People need not be alarmed he has been treated unfairly by rabid leftists and tree-huggers. He's been thrown out the ground for good and got exactly what he deserved.
 
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The thing which is baffling is that people know the risks when they hurl this type of abuse-- i.e. the imminent ban from all games, possible jail, possible loss of job but it still goes on. Crazy.
 
Sadly Johnny 2773, or whatever he is called, is being deliberately provocative knowing full well the reaction he will get, then feigning indignation when he's pulled up on it.
I know he would not post under his real name as he'll rightly face verbal abuse from people who know him. But he is doing it to get the reactions he is getting here. He probably doesn't believe what he is saying (or implying) but is getting off on the outrage he has caused.
Come on then Johnny 2773, give us your real name and see if you are then still prepared to put such idiotic views on here. Cheers Mike (Bungy) Dinsdale
 
Racism in all forms is shocking and must stop. I struggle with the mentality of some humans in this world. People are people regardless of how they happen to look.
 
Can`t for the life of me think of any scenario where there would be a back story to someone doing a monkey chant at a person who isn`t white, for it not to be a racist act

When Block21 posted the thread, Rio Ferdinand had tweeted about the incident 15 minutes earlier and a whole 90 minutes before Johnny2773 came on and said what he did

The info was there Johnny, you just didn`t bother looking, but were quick to denounce the racist act towards Rio Ferdinand.

That makes you a racist sympothiser, in my book. I`ll also hazard a guess that you have black friends which means you can`t be racist (in your little world),right? but I bet you are, you just won`t admit it in public.
 
I think racists and racist sympathisers are pure nasty scum.

There's something more worrying about the @Jonny2773 type. Says something that defends racism but says it in such a roundabout way he then goes "oh, show me where I was racist" pretending to be innocent and inquiring. I really loathe people using this sort of technique to get their world view across. They know its wrong, they know racism is backwards, stupid and nasty. Which is why they defend it without out and out supporting it. Yet they still defend racism. It's really poor behaviour.
 
'The loudest boos were heard at Sunderland on Saturday when the players took the knee ahead of their play-off semi-final against Lincoln City'
 
Jonny2773 said:
Before I start I need to say that I know nothing about this, nor do I condone racism. I am purely playing devils advocate!

Why does making a monkey chant towards him have to be automatically seen as racism, how do we know that there isn't a back story? Yes it has 'traditionally' if that you can call it a tradition, to associate the monkey with man of darker skin, but how do we know that it was intended racism toward Ferdinand?


*gets tin hat and ducks*
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This is seriously one of the most depressingly ignorant posts I have ever read. Shameful.
 
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