Same teams going up and down!

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MVBoro

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With Bournemouth and Fulham going back up and Norwich and Watford going down, it shows just how hard it is to get in the prem against recently relegated teams and how tough it is to stay up. Add in Sheff Utd who are in the play-off picture, the championship is becoming a bit of a closed shop too. I never really thought of it as that, but clearly is. You seem to have a few teams who are either not good enough for the prem or too good for the championship with their bigger budgets.
Not sure how good for football this is, but only likely to continue....
 
TeaCider said:
Bournemouth didn't come down last season though.

They were beaten to promotion by a new team in Brentford last year, and Brentford have stayed up very comfortably.
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Sorry. My mistake. One year seems to blend into another with similar teams going up and down!
 
TeaCider said:
Bournemouth didn't come down last season though.

They were beaten to promotion by a new team in Brentford last year, and Brentford have stayed up very comfortably.
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I think Brentford would have been significantly less comfortable without Eriksen, and it took a wild set of events for them to get him - he was a smart bomb almost no team in a similar position would ordinarily have access to, them included.
 
Parachute Money is the key - Bournemouth needed to get up this season or they would have been in a real problem state.
But even the Championship and League One is seeing many of the same teams yo-yoing - ie Rotherham. Wigan swapping for Peterborough and Barnsley.
There needs to be a way of stopping the enormous advantage clubs have with parachute money - especially when they have stayed up for 2 seasons - that seems to be what everyone aims for.
 
Burnley, Palace, Leicester, Wolves and Brighton have all showed recently that if you spend wisely then you can compete and stay in the Prem.

Boro, Hull, Stoke, Swansea, Cardiff and Sunderland have showed that if you don't spend wisely then you can expect to not get promoted from the championship. Injuries don't help either mind.
 
I dare say theyl be a premier league 1 and 2 eventually perhaps when the super league kicks in , maybe that’s the only way money will get shared down a second tier . There’s enough foreign ownership not to care about English tradition
 
Norwich and Fulham are proper yo-yo clubs who go up, straight back down, and up again, but I don’t think it really applies to teams who stay up for a few years and make a decent fist of it.

Bournemouth had a great run in the PL before they went down. Even Sheff United had one brilliant season, Leeds too. Obviously the gulf is massive but I don’t think it’s as bad as all that, everyone always tips all three promoted clubs to go straight back down and they rarely do, usually one or two stay up and one usually way overperforms.

Norwich are a bit embarrassing though, they just don’t compete in the PL.
 
The competition has gone wonky.
Top 10 in prem are a league
then bottom half prem/top half champo
Bottom half champo/top half league one etc
 
I think the importance of parachute payments is overhyped, or at least was until Covid dramatically altered cash flows

Immediately before that, recently relegated teams were not dominating the promotion positions.

I also notice that the likes of Peterborough, Rotherham and Barnsley have been yoyoing between the championship and league one, without parachute payments being an issue. Newly relegated teams have always had a better than random chance of promotion the next year..
 
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