Schofield finished

[Quicksilvera]

The problem is everything Schofield has said has been proven to be a lie, and everything he’s alleged to have done by insiders has proven to be true.

The difference between his situation and yours is your wife wasn’t 34 years your junior and you weren’t in a position of authority over her whilst portraying to be a happily married man.

All of that is true yes but has Mr Schofield broke any laws? Did he have a consensual relationship with an adult? Morally he’s done wrong by cheating on his family, he may or may not have groomed that boy but it’s all rumour so far.

 

[Millbrook]

Blackmail is a crime.

You may want to check the legal definition of blackmail.

Can't see how it applies in this case.

 

[r00fie1]

What age gap between partners or relationships is "acceptable"?
Did Rod Stewart "groom" Penny Lancaster who is 26 years his junior.
Or Alex Roderick who is 32 years Billy Joel`s junior.

5 years?
10 years?
15 years?
20 years?
30 years?
40 years?

 

[r00fie1]

You may want to check the legal definition of blackmail.

Can't see how it applies in this case.

Theft Act 1968

An Act to revise the law of England and Wales as to theft and similar or associated offences, and in connection therewith to make provision as to criminal proceedings by one party to a marriage against the other, and to make certain amendments extending beyond England and Wales in the Post...

www.legislation.gov.uk

Extract:

Blackmail.

(1)A person is guilty of blackmail if, with a view to gain for himself or another or with intent to cause loss to another, he makes any unwarranted demand with menaces; and for this purpose a demand with menaces is unwarranted unless the person making it does so in the belief—

(a)that he has reasonable grounds for making the demand; and

(b)that the use of the menaces is a proper means of reinforcing the demand.

(2)The nature of the act or omission demanded is immaterial, and it is also immaterial whether the menaces relate to action to be taken by the person making the demand.

(3)A person guilty of blackmail shall on conviction on indictment be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.

 

[Millbrook]

Theft Act 1968

An Act to revise the law of England and Wales as to theft and similar or associated offences, and in connection therewith to make provision as to criminal proceedings by one party to a marriage against the other, and to make certain amendments extending beyond England and Wales in the Post...

www.legislation.gov.uk

Extract:

Blackmail.

(1)A person is guilty of blackmail if, with a view to gain for himself or another or with intent to cause loss to another, he makes any unwarranted demand with menaces; and for this purpose a demand with menaces is unwarranted unless the person making it does so in the belief—

(a)that he has reasonable grounds for making the demand; and

(b)that the use of the menaces is a proper means of reinforcing the demand.

(2)The nature of the act or omission demanded is immaterial, and it is also immaterial whether the menaces relate to action to be taken by the person making the demand.

(3)A person guilty of blackmail shall on conviction on indictment be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.

I know but it does not explain why you think the events surrounding Schofield amount to blackmail.

Where is the gain or loss, what is the unwarranted demand with menaces?

 

[Rofesleg]

What age gap between partners or relationships is "acceptable"?
Did Rod Stewart "groom" Penny Lancaster who is 26 years his junior.
Or Alex Roderick who is 32 years Billy Joel`s junior.

5 years?
10 years?
15 years?
20 years?
30 years?
40 years?

It depends really on the ages involved when they each met and the level of influence used.

 

[Jonny Ingbar]

It depends really on the ages involved when they each met and the level of influence used.

Agree with this and whilst I won't post here what I've been told, for obvious reasons, the question of how the two parties have known each other is an important question.

I guess the truth will be known to some people.

 

[Littlefella68]

Just to play devil's advocate here there is another angle that the lad in question has played schofield

 

[Priv]

Just to play devil's advocate here there is another angle that the lad in question has played schofield

That’s called victim blaming. I’m not saying PS groomed or abused the lad when he was under age, he might of he might not. It certainly looks like an abuse of status though. but (aiming at little fellas comment not PS) an all to common defence of a sexual predator is they led me on, they wanted it as well, they set me up etc to deflect blame and absolve themselves of any wrongdoing or responsibility.

That sort of rhetoric has allowed powerful men to get away with abhorrent behaviour for decades.

 

[sherlock]

Just to play devil's advocate here there is another angle that the lad in question has played schofield

Dear god….

I suppose you think domestic violence victims provoked someone, or that victims of sexual assault were ‘asking for it’?

Do better.

 

[Glover_elbow]

What age gap between partners or relationships is "acceptable"?
Did Rod Stewart "groom" Penny Lancaster who is 26 years his junior.
Or Alex Roderick who is 32 years Billy Joel`s junior.

5 years?
10 years?
15 years?
20 years?
30 years?
40 years?

Age gaps are fine when the younger person has reached adult maturity to me if the younger person is less than 21 then they havent.

 

[Priv]

Age gaps are fine when the younger person has reached adult maturity to me if the younger person is less than 21 then they havent.

Completely agree, I came out of a long term relationship when I was 33.

I dated quite a few different women over the following year or so, had a new one pretty much every month most were mid to late twenties. The youngest 2 were 24 another was 25 but most were between 27 and 30. After a while I decided I wouldn’t date anyone else under 28 as they were generally just too immature and mentally I felt so much older.

 

[TheYorkshireTerrier]

Can someone clear this one up for me?

If there was such a super injunction taking out on all this, as some of the rumours suggest, does that stop people like Eamon Holmes, Dan Wooton etc and all the rest of these apparent celebrities who knew what was going on and weren’t happy about it, being able to speak about it?

I’ve seen someone, think it might have been Wooton actually, or it might have been in Schofield’s statement, say there was no super injunction.

What’s irking me at the minute is, until any of these rumours are proved to be true or false, the people coming crawling out of the woodwork trying to get ahead of the story. If anything it’s making them look more suspicious to me.

 

[Honey_Glazed_Sausages]

I think Holly may need to have more than 2 weeks off. This isn't going to go away in couple of weeks. She's made some terrible decisions the last couple of years by the looks of it

 

[InglebyUTB]

All of that is true yes but has Mr Schofield broke any laws? Did he have a consensual relationship with an adult? Morally he’s done wrong by cheating on his family, he may or may not have groomed that boy but it’s all rumour so far.

You’re using the Harvey Weinstein defence

 

[Priv]

Can someone clear this one up for me?

If there was such a super injunction taking out on all this, as some of the rumours suggest, does that stop people like Eamon Holmes, Dan Wooton etc and all the rest of these apparent celebrities who knew what was going on and weren’t happy about it, being able to speak about it?

I’ve seen someone, think it might have been Wooton actually, or it might have been in Schofield’s statement, say there was no super injunction.

What’s irking me at the minute is, until any of these rumours are proved to be true or false, the people coming crawling out of the woodwork trying to get ahead of the story. If anything it’s making them look more suspicious to me.

Yeah Schofield said there wasn’t an injunction but I’ve seen a few say there was and that it ended the day before the Mail interview. Problem is PS has repeatedly lied so why would anyone believe him now anyway. Also the only reason I’d expect anyone would use the mail to release a story like this is if they had something on them. Which raises suspicion further.

 

[Quicksilvera]

You’re using the Harvey Weinstein defence

Am I? Harvey Weinstein the convicted rapist? Until he’s convicted in court I won’t label him a paedo, a rapist or whatever anyone else is calling him on social media.

 

[sherlock]

Am I? Harvey Weinstein the convicted rapist? Until he’s convicted in court I won’t label him a paedo, a rapist or whatever anyone else is calling him on social media.

Jimmy Savile was never convicted. He was still a paedophile.

 

[InglebyUTB]

Am I?

Weinstein claimed what he did was fine as all the women were of legal age and consented to it.

That’s the defence of Schofield, they were both adults and it was consensual.

 

[Quicksilvera]

Jimmy Savile was never convicted. He was still a paedophile.

What does Jimmy Saville have to do with this though?

Weinstein claimed what he did was fine as all the women were of legal age and consented to it.

That’s the defence of Schofield, they were both adults and it was consensual.

That was his defence and he had every right to a defence but was convicted in a court of law.

Schofield is currently guilty going by this thread and other forms of social media which sets a dangerous precedent. Let him have his day in court if necessary.

Bringing a convicted rapist into it has nothing to do with it, Weinsteins defence I imagine is the defence of most convicted rapists.