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The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
They certainly wont be valued based on their product, which hasn't really been relevant for about 15 years. You might as well invest in Bitcoin if you're buying it purely because of their bitcoin holding.
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Some think that, and looking at their value compared to spot BTC they are right.

They are also missing the big picture.

Start a few seconds before 6 mins in to the video.
This guy is not a typical YouTuber, he's been in the space for years, and has only ever done two videos.
 
If I had money spare I would be shorting the ever loving feck out of Truth Social right now" $ billion valuation on a company making $40 million loss the previous year and a small and niche userbase. Its a meme stock and it will tank.
 
VladKinder said:
Some think that, and looking at their value compared to spot BTC they are right.

They are also missing the big picture.
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What's the big picture, you're speculating on bitcoin really, or their ability to speculate on bitcoin?

Microstrategy as a product isn't really going to increase the share price on its own.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
They certainly wont be valued based on their product, which hasn't really been relevant for about 15 years. You might as well invest in Bitcoin if you're buying it purely because of their bitcoin holding.
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You can't put Bitcoin in an ISA. I can't buy Bitcoin with the leverage Saylor can either.

It's really no different than saying don't buy Berkshire Hathaway, buy all the things they invest in instead. Sometimes it's just easier to tag along instead of doing the groundwork yourself.
 
JonnyHistory said:
If I had money spare I would be shorting the ever loving feck out of Truth Social right now" $ billion valuation on a company making $40 million loss the previous year and a small and niche userbase. Its a meme stock and it will tank.
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It's definitely going to tank but knowing when is the issue. Trump can only sell his shares after 6 months. He will be rallying his maga followers to keep it going until he an get his cash and then they will lose it all. There will be money to be made as it rises if you get out at the right time. The company itself though is worthless but things are worth what people are willing to pay for them. The majority of the maga lot are actually really poor though so don't have the ability to prop up DJT.
 
Nano said:
You can't put Bitcoin in an ISA. I can't buy Bitcoin with the leverage Saylor can either.

It's really no different than saying don't buy Berkshire Hathaway, buy all the things they invest in instead. Sometimes it's just easier to tag along instead of doing the groundwork yourself.
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Understand, but Berkshire Hataway has a proven investor at the helm in Buffet.

Microstrategy are an outdated technology company who are now dabbling in bitcoin fuelled by a executive chairman who didn't manage to stay relevant with his core product, has a tax fraud case hanging over him, an erroneous SEC filing history, not to mention refusing to close the offices of MS due to his under estimating the impact of COVID.

For that reason I'm out.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
Understand, but Berkshire Hataway has a proven investor at the helm in Buffet.

Microstrategy are an outdated technology company who are now dabbling in bitcoin fuelled by a executive chairman who didn't manage to stay relevant with his core product, has a tax fraud case hanging over him, an erroneous SEC filing history, not to mention refusing to close the offices of MS due to his under estimating the impact of COVID.

For that reason I'm out.
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They aren't just dabbling in Bitcoin. They own 1% of the maximum supply. Even if the rest of the business is worth $0 the Bitcoin alone is worth $15bn (today). He's spent $7bn buying them but it could be an incredibly profitable gamble if Bitcoin continues to rise. I think it's only going up.

I am a low cost index tracker sort of investor so I'm not heavily invested in them or anything. I have £200 total in my individual stock portfolio but I follow things for interest more than anything.
 
1finny said:
Yes, it certainly was

Bought at 270
Currently 380

and new takeover price agreed at 415
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You did good kid, but how far are you willing to go?

I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.

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Nano said:
They aren't just dabbling in Bitcoin. They own 1% of the maximum supply. Even if the rest of the business is worth $0 the Bitcoin alone is worth $15bn (today). He's spent $7bn buying them but it could be an incredibly profitable gamble if Bitcoin continues to rise. I think it's only going up.

I am a low cost index tracker sort of investor so I'm not heavily invested in them or anything. I have £200 total in my individual stock portfolio but I follow things for interest more than anything.
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I did a bit of a dabble in my SIPP. Unfortunately I've had to buy whole shares as Hargreaves Lansdown wouldn't let me buy part of a share. I've now got 2 and currently 14% up. I know it can dip, but I'll probably hold on for a while and keep an eye on them.
 
AP - My advice is take a profit on one of them. Certainly set a target to sell at it and don't change your mind say 20% profit to sell 1 of the 2 shares and 100% profit to sell the second one.

Human nature is you let them drift high and don't sell. Then there can be an expected crash that the big fish have caused by them selling and the little fish are left holding.
 
Redwurzel said:
AP - My advice is take a profit on one of them. Certainly set a target to sell at it and don't change your mind say 20% profit to sell 1 of the 2 shares and 100% profit to sell the second one.

Human nature is you let them drift high and don't sell. Then there can be an expected crash that the big fish have caused by them selling and the little fish are left holding.
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Yeah, I’m planning on selling when they get to about 25% profit. Then possibly buy back in on the dips.

I’ve been burnt a few times holding onto stock. Particularly about 12-15 years ago when I was invested in a few oil exploration companies on AIM. My SIPP took a big hit, though managed to recover after several years by just sticking to funds.
 
Nano said:
They aren't just dabbling in Bitcoin. They own 1% of the maximum supply. Even if the rest of the business is worth $0 the Bitcoin alone is worth $15bn (today). He's spent $7bn buying them but it could be an incredibly profitable gamble if Bitcoin continues to rise. I think it's only going up.

I am a low cost index tracker sort of investor so I'm not heavily invested in them or anything. I have £200 total in my individual stock portfolio but I follow things for interest more than anything.
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Fancy a little dabble myself. Can you buy in a UK ISA and if so, do you know what the EPIC is? Thanks
 
VladKinder said:
Stay away from UK/FTSE stocks. They are Trash and getting worse.
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Strange comment given the FTSE hit an 11 month high today. I can say that the UK stock market is unexciting and cant see sustained growth as we have seen in the last 20 years but its non volatile and I would rather be in that direction than hight risk assets and punts.
 
Cardiffdaffs said:
Strange comment given the FTSE hit an 11 month high today. I can say that the UK stock market is unexciting and cant see sustained growth as we have seen in the last 20 years but its non volatile and I would rather be in that direction than hight risk assets and punts.
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100%. I have quite a lot of money (for me) in the FTSE Global All Cap. I've seen an average of around 10% per year for the past 5 years which is automatically re-invested.

The stock that's been talked about in this thread (MSTR) might be more exciting, and it might have seen huge gains over the last month - but it might also be a pump and dump; it's 10% DOWN today.
 
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