Social energy tariffs

[Andy_W]

I think in Finland they have a basic living wage, as people have what they need then there is less crime, better health. This actually means less money on public services such as police and health.

Also the happiest country in the world apparently, so it's either the lack of issues making that so, or their love for heavy metal/ rock.

Been there a couple of times, and the people are great.

 

[BobUpnDown]

Happiness... https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-countries-in-the-world

in 2023 a modern country - in Europe & more - should not have homelessness, hunger or energy poverty to name just 3.. another Gov / social handout is not going to fix it, it needs to be a societal change & I'm almost certain, a move away from capitalist ideology to a more democratic socialist mindset in all walks of life - education, business & personal.

 

[Teesside96]

I think the answer to this, and all other forms of benefits, is universal basic income. Everyone gets the minimum required to be comfortable, even the super rich. Nobody can complain then that someone else is getting something that they aren't. Everyone gets a level of income that allows more than just surviving and anyone is free to go and work and earn above that amount. UBI would be tax free but anything you go and earn above that would be taxed progressively more than it is now, particularly focusing on taxing wealth and not just income so it still incentivises working.

What a good idea

 

[Andy_W]

I think the answer to this, and all other forms of benefits, is universal basic income. Everyone gets the minimum required to be comfortable, even the super rich. Nobody can complain then that someone else is getting something that they aren't. Everyone gets a level of income that allows more than just surviving and anyone is free to go and work and earn above that amount. UBI would be tax free but anything you go and earn above that would be taxed progressively more than it is now, particularly focusing on taxing wealth and not just income so it still incentivises working.

You know who the only people who would be against this are, the extremely rich, but it's not just about the money they have (or want), it's the control/ influence which comes with that. 99.9% should be more than happy with that system, and the other 0.01% would just end up slightly less happy, but still stinking rich.

I don't see how anyone with 100m could not have practically the exact same life as if they had 50m instead. But also, why does anyone need a life where they have 10bn, 1b, 100m etc, if they had 10m it would still be practically identical, and they should still be ecstatic. If there was a set limit to individuals' wealth, then you wouldn't have people competing with each other, trying to be no 1, whilst you have 1000 people who don't even have 1k.

 

[Randy]

I think in Finland they have a basic living wage, as people have what they need then there is less crime, better health. This actually means less money on public services such as police and health.

It was only an experiment unfortunately. Not a permanent thing. Yet.

The only downside to it that I've read is the risk of inflation growing and then UBI having to grow to compensate and then inflation growing again, repeat until 'pop'.