Some people just voted out without thinking it through

[Boro in Devon]

To be honest, it just shows at times that our version of democracy has failed.

The question as posed in the referendum was too simplistic. There was always going to be a lot more than do you want to leave the eu. Some people could understand the implications, others couldn't, and we were mislead by the campaigning groups.

I felt that I didnt understand enough to make the decision, I consider myself as intelligent but felt that I didnt have enough facts to make the decision.
This was a good example of the question was too hard for the average voter to understand the implications. I am really not sure that a referendum is the correct vehicle to use in these circumstances.

However this was the concensus and we now all have to live with the consequences.

 

[Lefty]

I can't think of any decision we take in life where we do not consider what comes next when we are making that decision. Even setting the alarm clock is with a narrative in our head as to what comes next.

'I'll set it for 7, so I can have a 10 min snooze, 10 min shower, 10 minute to get dressed, 20 minutes for brekkie, on the road for 7.50, which avoids the worst of the traffic, gets me parked close to the office and I'm not late.'

However, when it comes to the most unique, complex political question we have ever had to face ............ well, no plan whatsoever.

17m people voted for not setting an alarm at all and we'd figure the rest out once we'd slept in.

 

[NoMushroom]

I suspect you may be trolling and I'm certainly not looking for an arguement. However, can i ask what made you form that opinion?

I know people have a go at me for taking an interest in this subject but I'm genuinely curious as to why we have Brexiters right now. At this point in time, when all these things have failed, I would genuinely love to know why people are glad it has happened. I can't for the life of me work it out.

Well look at this year alone.... the EU well and truly thrown everything out of the pram

Who would have thought that the EU would invoke Article 16 - it's been blunder after blunder from them

I have a business which has extra paperwork due to Brexit as I have to register in Ireland, but still I believe in the long run it will be worth it

 

[NoMushroom]

That's a long time for the average Brexiter to be contemplating the issue. Well done.

Very insightful comment - Well Done .... small wins on a message board won't change the result

 

[bear66]

Well look at this year alone.... the EU well and truly thrown everything out of the pram

Who would have thought that the EU would invoke Article 16 - it's been blunder after blunder from them

I have a business which has extra paperwork due to Brexit as I have to register in Ireland, but still I believe in the long run it will be worth it

Haven't the UK actually broken the agreement as opposed to threatening to? UK blunder after blunder and by 2050 (most optimistic government view) we'll be back to where we were in January 2021 . . . but still with lots of bureaucracy.

 

[JaenBoro]

I am not a cunning linguist. My skills are in I.T. and the sciences.

I struggle to sing in key. I also find it difficult to listen to something and repeat it back.

I think my Spanish is poor. However I understand much more that I can speak. Also, google is my friend. Even if the translations are not very good.

For around 3 years I held the post of president of the urbanisation where we live. That involved working with the administrators and all of the suppliers of services to our apartment block. Plus liaison with the owners. Where more than 50% are Spanish. All that helped my Spanish improve.

With coronavirus isolation plus someone else doing the presidents job now my Spanish is getting worse. Rather than better.

It is difficult. I feel I'm going backwards sometimes. I understand loads when its written but listening is still a problem. I don't half struggle with some people and in some circumstances. But about the paperwork it's not difficult with Google and you can use CAB Spain and follow their guidance almost to the letter. We got our TIEs a couple of months ago even though it was not strictly necessary because I am sure it will be at some point.

 

[SmallTown]

Well look at this year alone.... the EU well and truly thrown everything out of the pram

Who would have thought that the EU would invoke Article 16 - it's been blunder after blunder from them

I have a business which has extra paperwork due to Brexit as I have to register in Ireland, but still I believe in the long run it will be worth it

I can't agree with you on the first fact. I don't see any evidence of this.

Can't you? I can't see why NI shoudl have special treatment in a process that it (through the UK government) voted for

Not even sure where to start with the last one. I'm not sure how relocating a business to the EU and Presumably giving more in taxes to them than the UK can be seen as a benefit in any way shape or form?

You still haven't stated HOW you believe it will be worth it. You've stated a subjective comment where you have tried to anthropomorphisise the EU, one comment on one topic which may be valid and then explained that you are subject to extra paperwork and have had to move your business to the EU.

Hardly evidence it was a good idea.

So genuinely why do you think it's a good idea? Maybe you're Irish and you think it's a good idea because you can leave?

What ACTUAL beneifts are we seeing from living the EU? and How do they counteract the extra paperwork, damage to small business, economic damage and restrictions to our freedom of movement?

 

[spanishman]

It is difficult. I feel I'm going backwards sometimes. I understand loads when its written but listening is still a problem. I don't half struggle with some people and in some circumstances. But about the paperwork it's not difficult with Google and you can use CAB Spain and follow their guidance almost to the letter. We got our TIEs a couple of months ago even though it was not strictly necessary because I am sure it will be at some point.

we are going to get TIEs eventually. When we get around to it. Plus after we have had our vaccinations.