Tell me about the 74/75 Boro team/season

Stoke and Sheff Utd fans must think about that season in a similar way. Although if I remember Stoke won the League Cup around then too.
 
That season was my favourite as a Boro fan.

gue Division One table after close of play on 26 April 1975​

PosTeamPldWDLGFGAGAvgGDPts
1Derby County4221111067491.3671853
2Liverpool4220111160391.5382151
3Ipswich Town422351466441.5002251
4Everton421618856421.3331450
5Stoke City4217151064481.3331649
6Middlesbrough4218121254401.3501448
7Sheffield United4118121158511.137748
8Manchester City4218101454541.000046
9Leeds United4116131255451.2221045
10Burnley4217111468671.015145
11Queens Park Rangers4216101654541.000042
12Wolverhampton Wanderers4214111757541.056339
13Coventry City4212151551620.823-1139
14Newcastle United421591859720.819-1339
15Arsenal4113111747480.979-137
16West Ham United4112131657590.966-237
17Birmingham City411481953610.869-836
18Leicester City4212121846600.767-1436
19Luton Town4211112047650.723-1833
20Chelsea429151842720.583-3033
21Tottenham Hotspur411282148610.787-1332
22Carlisle United421252543590.729-1629

As you can see from the table pretty close.
If Bobby Murdoch and Big John were a few years younger then who knows
We were a Paul Mariner or a David Cross away from being top of the shop
Jack has admitted not buying that season was a huge mistake.
What a time to be a Boro supporter 94 onwards had big investment
73 onwards came out of nowhere after decades of under acheivement with Jackadding Bobby Murdoch to Stan Andersons team.
We were truly a force in English football!
spot on!
 
We finished 7th, basically mid table, so it’s a load of nonsense we were close to winning the league. The point gap in between the top side and Boro was quite significant in the era of two points per win.
 
I don't know how many of you felt this, but I never appreciated how good we really were until years after. It just seemed to happen, burn bright then slowly fade. I'm so glad I was old enough to see that side.
Me too! So glad I was there - the season before was my first Season Ticket and what a season it was. As you say, it all seemed so normal at the time but being young, I didn't appreciate how special it was.
 
🎣 Nice try! Were you actually on the planet then HG?
If so did you go to any matches that season
I was and like many posters on this thread I am basing things on facts
as has been said before 1 match against Derby and 2 consecutive defeats cost them dearly.
A great team who shook up the big boys at the time
Except for Man who were in the 2nd division :D
 
I knew someone would come on and rubbish this thread. Thanks for that rifle. As people pointed out, we were challenging for the title and fell away at the end. Which is exactly what happened if you were actually there.

And since we did 7th become mid table?!
 
I knew someone would come on and rubbish this thread. Thanks for that rifle. As people pointed out, we were challenging for the title and fell away at the end. Which is exactly what happened if you were actually there.

And since we did 7th become mid table?!
Didn't finishing 7th result in a small team getting to a European final?
 
74/75 - was my favourite season too - the same Boro team as 1973/74 were top 10 all season. I didn't get to many games as we moved away from the area in late October 1974.

I remember were linked with strikers for the last 2 years of Jack Charlton's reign.

What we didn't know was the damaged knee that Willie Maddren picked up and played on with, which ended his career, about 7 years early in 1977.

Stan Anderson signed some very useful players in the early 70s - Platt, Craggs, Boam, Foggon, Souness that really showed their worth in the 1973-75 period and in some cases right up to 1982.
 
Exactly! Strange that our own fans seem to take pleasure in knocking the fact that 74-75 was an incredible season. It's far and away the best season I've known in all my years of following Boro.
I think it's a common reaction of the young to have zero interest in something that seems like ancient history to them. They did not experience it and so it means nothing to them and they dont want to have to listen to a bunch of old farts droning on about the good old days. I remember at the time my Dad being very cynical about the boro and going on about Clough, Mannion amd Hardwick. He might as well have been talking about the Henry VIII and the dissolution of the monasteries for all the relevance it had to me. In the same way, when I was a kid, the second world war was definitely in black and white but in reality it was only twenty years earlier. In contrast that great boro team and season was 45 years ago and yet it still seems so vivid to me now.
 
I think it's a common reaction of the young to have zero interest in something that seems like ancient history to them. They did not experience it and so it means nothing to them and they dont want to have to listen to a bunch of old farts droning on about the good old days. I remember at the time my Dad being very cynical about the boro and going on about Clough, Mannion amd Hardwick. He might as well have been talking about the Henry VIII and the dissolution of the monasteries for all the relevance it had to me. In the same way, when I was a kid, the second world war was definitely in black and white but in reality it was only twenty years earlier. In contrast that great boro team and season was 45 years ago and yet it still seems so vivid to me now.

Which is ironic because the initial post was about a younger lad wanting to know about the 75 season. But yeah, you're right. My grand dad never got over the 50/51 season when we were top of the league with 8 leagues to play and didn't win another game! So I guess it's the same.

Just wanted to correct something above about being in the top 10 all season. We were pretty much in the top four all season then fell away.
 
I think it's a common reaction of the young to have zero interest in something that seems like ancient history to them. They did not experience it and so it means nothing to them and they dont want to have to listen to a bunch of old farts droning on about the good old days. I remember at the time my Dad being very cynical about the boro and going on about Clough, Mannion amd Hardwick. He might as well have been talking about the Henry VIII and the dissolution of the monasteries for all the relevance it had to me. In the same way, when I was a kid, the second world war was definitely in black and white but in reality it was only twenty years earlier. In contrast that great boro team and season was 45 years ago and yet it still seems so vivid to me now.
I can agree with that, though not happy with the 'old fart', 😉

Im 61 years young 😁
 

As you can see the team was basically the same as the team that got promotion. No other player, even sooper cooper played more than 9 games
I can still remember beating Birmingham 3-0 in the first game of the season. they didn't know what had happened to them. neither did a lot of teams that season!

974-75 season squad statistics​

SqdPlayerFromPositionASGPYR
David Armstrong
(ENG)
Midfielder53071
Stuart Boam
(ENG)
Defender/Centre back5301
Peter BrineMidfielder46
Harry CharltonMidfielder30
Terry Cooper
(ENG)
Defender90
John Craggs
(ENG)
Defender/Right-back5101
Peter Creamer
(ENG)
Defender10
Alan Foggon
(ENG)
Midfielder/Forward52018
John Hickton
(ENG)
Forward500114
Willie Maddren
(ENG)
Defender/Centre-back5303
Tony McAndrew
(SCO)
Defender10
David Mills
(ENG)
Forward45011
Bobby Murdoch
(SCO)
Midfielder470
Tom PatersonForward10
Jim Platt
(NIR)
Goalkeeper530--
Malcolm SmithForward672
Graeme Souness
(SCO)
Midfielder4707
Frank Spraggon
(ENG)
Defender410
Brian TaylorCentral defender45
Alan WilleyForward9123
Billy Woof
(ENG)
Forward01
Pat Cuff
(ENG)
Goalkeeper--
Own Goal

 
I remember been told in the 1970s about in the late 1950s of Clough and Peacock (England Internationals) and how the Boro scored for fun, but never got promoted or near it. The middle aged fans then were not complimentary about the 1950s at the Boro. Clough did imply later that some of the Boro defenders were betting against the team - witness 6-6 draws.
 
We finished 7th, basically mid table, so it’s a load of nonsense we were close to winning the league. The point gap in between the top side and Boro was quite significant in the era of two points per win.
Behave. 7th isn’t “mid table” and 5 points off top isn’t significant notwithstanding the 2 pts for win. And if we had beaten Derby as we should have done (we gifted them the late equaliser) that gap would have only been 3 points off top.
 
Behave. 7th isn’t “mid table” and 5 points off top isn’t significant notwithstanding the 2 pts for win. And if we had beaten Derby as we should have done (we gifted them the late equaliser) that gap would have only been 3 points off top.

Could’ve, would’ve, should’ve. Every team can point at games and say things would be different if they won, but they didn’t.

5 points was a fair gap in those days, you would need pretty much a 3 game win and loss swing to take over the top side, which is unlikely. Especially when you would need all those above you to lose games too.

7th was nearer to mid table than it was to winning the league

So all in all, Boro weren’t even close to winning the league.
 
Yes they were. So it’s “fair” gap now not “significant”. And 6 points above 11th is “closer to mid table” than 5 pts off top? Right.

Let’s agree to differ.
 
Yes they were. So it’s “fair” gap now not “significant”. And 6 points above 11th is “closer to mid table” than 5 pts off top? Right.

Let’s agree to differ.

It was a significant gap, as I gave in my explanation

Boro were never close to winning the league
 
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