Funky_Chicken
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And the player holding down Dijksteel isn’t a foul either ?It’s almost as if a still image doesn’t tell the whole tale.
And the player holding down Dijksteel isn’t a foul either ?It’s almost as if a still image doesn’t tell the whole tale.
There is no reason why the average fan should need to know the exact detail of the rules particularly when they are as vague and unhelpful as the drafting you have posted above. I’m not sure the details add anything at all.1. Direct free kick
A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
Law5.2
- charges
- jumps at
- kicks or attempts to kick
- pushes
2. Decisions of the referee
Decisions will be made to the best of the referee's ability according to the Laws of the Game and the 'spirit of the game' and will be based on the opinion of the referee who has the discretion to take appropriate action within the framework of the Laws of the Game.
This is plainly not correct as per the laws shown above. This idea has been mentioned so often in commentary that many people believe that is the laws of the games. There used to be a phrase that was commonly used which was” in the referee’s opinion”. Another referee may have given a foul but this referee did not. The referee, when asked why it was not a foul should have used phrases from the laws of the game ( e.g the force of the contact between the player and goalkeeper was not excessive)
It’s been 40 years since I qualified as a referee and have not officiated for 20 years but the reason I stopped was the anger and vitriol from managers, players and supporters who do not appreciate the laws of the game.
Eh? I think they’re both fouls. I’m saying that the still image doesn’t show the push as it happened…And the player holding down Dijksteel isn’t a foul either ?
No you’re wrong, Chris Wilder cost us the game with his poor team selection, the players also cost us the game with their poor first half performance.The ref has admitted there was a push by saying the goalkeeper should have been ‘stronger’, he didn’t say there was no infringement.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
I put on another post that bad refereeing does happen, it cost us yesterday but no doubt we will benefit ourselves at some point in the season.
It’s foul for me - and what about the other QPR player pushing Dijksteel downwards?No you’re wrong, Chris Wilder cost us the game with his poor team selection, the players also cost us the game with their poor first half performance.
There wasn’t sufficient contact for a foul, as Dimi says you should expect that.
You as a goalkeeper cannot expect to receive zero contact in crowded penalty box.
I think you’re going OTT with this, he said Steffen should have been stronger, he should have. Steffen made a meal of it and we were punished.What part of the ref should not make personal underhand comments to a team about one of their players based on personal opinion are people struggling with.
I meant it cost us that particular goal rather than the game.No you’re wrong, Chris Wilder cost us the game with his poor team selection, the players also cost us the game with their poor first half performance.
There wasn’t sufficient contact for a foul, as Dimi says you should expect that.
You as a goalkeeper cannot expect to receive zero contact in crowded penalty box.
Personally don’t think the keeper made a meal of it, in fact maybe he wasn’t dramatic enough for this ref?I think you’re going OTT with this, he said Steffen should have been stronger, he should have. Steffen made a meal of it and we were punished.
You'd think this would be enough to end the argument. That is never being given in the Championship and we'd be kicking off if we scored that goal and a foul was given on the keeper.It’s Steffen’s fault. He looked for the free kick and didn’t get it.
Here’s someone who knows a thing or two about this kind of scenario…
It's not wilder's standard behaviour, it was Warnocks. Every manager is allowed to complain at some point about refereeing. He won't allow the player to escape without any blame that's pretty clear. I'd expect Dijksteel to be benched and then Lenihan will have to fight to get back in both were poor. Jones will have had a strip torn off about going to grown he's done that in the last 2 games and given chances away. Stay on your feet, delay, deny, deflect.Blaming the ref is looking the in wrong place. You can't concede three goals, misplaces hundreds of passes, a handful of chances, lose 50-50s etc etc and then distil the result down to a moment or two influenced by the referee. It's sport, referees are going to have a different opinion on things that happen based on their unique point of view. It's a mugs game blaming referees - we need to stop doing it.
We we’re 4-0 down the game immediately after it tooDidn't we lose 5-0 there when we got our second promotion under Robbo?
An ex experienced goalkeeper from boro disagrees. Put festa claims about people ‘haven’t played football’ in a different light tooAgree with @festa5, doesn’t matter how strong you are, if you’re in the air and someone shoves you in the back you’re going to get knocked off balance.
In 2022 that’s a foul all day long. You can get in front of the keeper and stop him from getting out to the ball but once he’s up in the air you can’t just shove him with your entire body.
I don’t really care what Dimi says to be honest.An ex experienced goalkeeper from boro disagrees. Put festa claims about people ‘haven’t played football’ in a different light too
Ye his expertise is probably invalid here, my mistakeI don’t really care what Dimi says to be honest.