HarryVegas
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Absolutely agree. After defeats I just avoid this place. Can't stand the wallowing in misery and recriminations that dominates. It's the worst thing about our regional character.
This place is not a patch on some of the facebook groups.Absolutely agree. After defeats I just avoid this place. Can't stand the wallowing in misery and recriminations that dominates. It's the worst thing about our regional character.
I'm sure. I avoid such places.This place is not a patch on some of the facebook groups.
If anyone is choking on their weetabix, they haven’t put enough milk on"Howevet all opinions deserve to be heard but it looks to me like the club has 'had a word' which if true is absolutely scandalous."
Er, no. And the OP is/was entirely my opinion. Not an FMTTM opinion. And certainly not an MFC opinion.
As you raise this point though, I can say with absolute certainty, in all the years I've been involved with the Admin of this board, I have never been given a steer by the club, or Rob for that matter. Rob just lets me get on with it, using my own judgement. (I'm aware that this last bit might cause some of you to choke on their weetabix)
I think they would to be honest.Hypothetically speaking, would posters still write aggressively negative posts, if they knew it might result in Gibson putting the club up for sale?
He isn't though is he? I can see your post has attempted to calm the situation but his is just a dig at other supporters for expressing an opinion.
In the old days, pre Internet, I would write to the Gazette to express my opinion without the benefit of anonymity. These days FMTTM allows people to vent without exposing themselves personally which in some ways is a bad thing because it does bring out the wally from time to time.
However all opinions deserve to be heard but it looks to me like the club has 'had a word' which if true is absolutely scandalous.
This board may not be representative of the fanbase but are dissenting voices not allowed anymore?
The club is a joke at the minute but is trotting out the old 'nothing to see here' line.
We are under-performing and under-achieving despite having a fanbase most Championship clubs and some PL clubs would die for.
I hope Gibson and others at the club do read this board and come to the conclusion that they/it need to do much better.
Wow. I think it could be a lot worse. For a club as unfashionable as ours, it wouldn't be something I'd like to risk personally.I think they would to be honest.
The 2006-2024 period has been a tough time to follow the club. Sure, Gibson has a lot of credit in the bank for his part in 1986 and his fantastic early tenure as chairman (1994-2006). But I think plenty of fans are now feeling very uninspired by a 16 year period in which we've spent 1 (awful) year in the top flight. Unprecedented in most of our lifetimes. We've made the play-offs on just 3 other occasions during this period.
I think if he was to put the club up for sale it would be an admission that he cannot find a way, financially or otherwise, to bring back the 'good times' he once brought. We'd all thank him for those once more, and try to feel a sense of optimism about the future. Of course it could go wrong, but at the moment it isn't exactly going right.
We are very quickly approaching a scenario where, aside from liquidation, few will be able to say 'Its been much worse than this'. It has only been once or twice in the club's history really, and the club is in a new era of mediocrity, monotony and underachievement (at least if measured against the last 50-60 years). Its false dawn after false dawn and it really isn't normally this bad for this long.
Absolutely none of our fans would have accepted being told, this time last year, that we'd be out of the play-off picture (yet again) in February 2024.
You have to remember also that a lot of fans won't have known anything different to the post 2006 era. Take Red Faction or example, I would assume that many are in their late teens or early 20's, so bar two seasons under Karanka and last season under Carrick, this is the norm for them.I think they would to be honest.
The 2006-2024 period has been a tough time to follow the club. Sure, Gibson has a lot of credit in the bank for his part in 1986 and his fantastic early tenure as chairman (1994-2006). But I think plenty of fans are now feeling very uninspired by a 16 year period in which we've spent 1 (awful) year in the top flight. Unprecedented in most of our lifetimes. We've made the play-offs on just 3 other occasions during this period.
I think if he was to put the club up for sale it would be an admission that he cannot find a way, financially or otherwise, to bring back the 'good times' he once brought. We'd all thank him for those once more, and try to feel a sense of optimism about the future. Of course it could go wrong, but at the moment it isn't exactly going right.
We are very quickly approaching a scenario where, aside from liquidation, few will be able to say 'Its been much worse than this'. It has only been once or twice in the club's history really, and the club is in a new era of mediocrity, monotony and underachievement (at least if measured against the last 50-60 years). Its false dawn after false dawn and it really isn't normally this bad for this long.
Absolutely none of our fans would have accepted being told, this time last year, that we'd be out of the play-off picture (yet again) in February 2024.
It could be a lot worse, but I don't think many fans are thinking like that at present.Wow. I think it could be a lot worse. For a club as unfashionable as ours, it wouldn't be something I'd like to risk personally.
We've had a bad 15 years, there's no disputing that but we're one promotion away from taking off again. I think the infrastructure of the club is in a much better place. We're more diligent with how we work as a club, top to bottom. We'd better utilise Premier League money next time around to get back into that cycle of being a yoyo club (because that is the next step) as well. We need a bit of luck, there's no doubting that but the consequences of gambling and losing are far too severe for my liking. Just ask Derby, Sheff Wed, Charlton, Portsmouth, Bolton etc.
Of course. People like Dana Malt often talk about how they've only seen us in the PL under Karanka.You have to remember also that a lot of fans won't have known anything different to the post 2006 era. Take Red Faction or example, I would assume that many are in their late teens or early 20's, so bar two seasons under Karanka and last season under Carrick, this is the norm for them.
We are very quickly approaching a scenario where, aside from liquidation, few will be able to say 'Its been much worse than this'. It has only been once or twice in the club's history really, and the club is in a new era of mediocrity, monotony and underachievement (at least if measured against the last 50-60 years). Its false dawn after false dawn and it really isn't normally this bad for this long.
Absolutely none of our fans would have accepted being told, this time last year, that we'd be out of the play-off picture (yet again) in February 2024.
I'm talking about the holistic picture. On the whole I've enjoyed Carrick's tenure, but this season has slipped away to the point that we're basically just fulfilling fixtures now.I think there's been plenty of times it's been worse than this, even in recent history. We've had a horrendous 6 weeks, but before that the period of 18 months under Carrick had been one of the most enjoyable and successful as a Boro fan in the last few years.
It's obviously gone t*ts up since then, but I'd take this period under MC any day over the Strachan, Pulis, Woodgate or Warnock eras.
That's not really my point though. Pulis was unpopular but we were competitive, mathematically speaking, until the end of both seasons, and we'd not been out of the PL for long.Absolutely @The Card Cheat ...post 1986, Strachan, Woodgate and Pulis really were the dark days.