The ups and downs of this squad.

We have a very ordinary Championship squad and no high quality.
Last season Akpom, Archer and Ramsey were very high quality.
We have nothing remotely like it.
While more optimistic than you indeedio, I can see where you are coming from. As the majority of our players are Championship standard and no better, I think maybe only Hackney, RVB and perhaps Greenwood will ever have careers at Premier League level from our current squad.
 
We did only have Archer and Ramsey in the second half of the season and Ramsey started just 8 games for us. Arguably, we could push out the boat and get two players in on loan in January to a similar standard.

I agree that we are weaker this year than at the same time last year but it looks a lot worse than it is due to injuries. Factoring out injuries we have replaced Akpom and Giles with some combination of Crooks/Greenwood, Engel/Bangura. That is a big step down and would be a challenge to deal with at the best of times. Add in losing Smith, Lenihan, O'Brien, McGree & Forss to long-term or season-ending injuries as well as a revolving cast of short-term injuries then it's no surprise we are where we are.

Thing is, you could imagine a January window where we get Diallo, Worrall and a striker on loan, Hackney and O'Brien strike up a partnership, McGree returns to full fitness in February and suddenly this looks like the kind of a squad that could go on a real run. I don't think that's what will happen because we'll just end up with another massive rebuild, undoing most of the point of the summer recruitment.

It always comes down to how you look at it. If the summer recruitment was a big reset and then we refine the squad over the next few windows it may make sense but I do wonder if we'll get to 12 months down the line and find almost no one bar Dieng and RVDB in the team.
Akpom with Latte Lath (one goal behind)
Giles & Bola with Engel and Bangura
Losing Smith but gaining Dijksteel and having RVDB
Losing Lenihan but getting Matt Clarke back
O'Brien replaces Moweatt who was missing for a large part of last season
McGree replaced with Greenwood.. who is making more of a contribution that Ramsey
Forss replaces by a revitalised Isaish JOnes

We're exactly where we were last season.. even with injuries the squad is stronger. January to bring in a replacement for Archer and defensive reinforcements.. we'll be cooking on gas.

Replacing Cameron Archer is a pretty big one mind

Jhon Durán from Aston Villa could give it a good go mind!
Joe Worrall covering for Darragh Lenihan
and then a right back.. Sam Curtis looks mint..

The Cameron Archer - 20 year old Villa striker aka danksy's dabble Jhon Durán
The Aaron Ramsey - 19 year old prodigy righ back Sam Curtis
The Dan Barlaser - 26yo proven championship quality in an important area - Joe Worrall

OTHER LINKED PLAYERS:
ST Brandon Vazquez - Brentford
CB Nathaniel Adjei - QPR
RB Conor Bradley - West Brom

CB Scott McKenna - loan with a £4m option to buy?
CB Charlie Cresswell - £4m
RB Amad Diallo - not really linked are we? Surely he would be back to Sunderland? Wayne Rooney could do with a lift..
GK Zack Steffen - twitter whispers regarding a short term deal in January
 
The club have admitted that last season was a roll of the dice going with lots of loan players. They admitted it was a short term choice to try and get up quickly. This never worked so we have had to try another route and this is more long term and less expensive.

We were never ever going to replace like for like from last years team or bring in first team numbers along with lots of promising players.

I dont think the club expected to be top 4 with this squad but probably expect to be in the play off spots i think injuries has dented them plans.
They haven't admitted it though. They sold this season, with higher ticket prices, as an ambitious promotion campaign. They might have admitted it to themselves but they haven't said we're re-building so don't expect promotion this year. We also sold our best player and haven't re-invested it in quality.

Last time we got to the playoff final we strengthened the team in the summer and built on that and were even better the following year. This year we've decided to throw away all that was good and start again. We're left with a squad that if we had been promoted would have been all the players we would have looked to replace because they weren't good enough.

I read other sites like Reddit which has a really good championship area and there have been several posts recently asking who is the best player in the championship, who's the most exciting, if you could have a player from any other team who would it be type of posts and we never get a mention. We don't have any stand-out quality player anymore. We don't even have anyone who is exciting. We have a bunch of average championship players, and Hackney (who will be the next to be sold and not replaced). Last season our players were the answers to all those questions. I think seeing us as a neutral obviously is different than the way our own fans look at us and we have fallen into midtable obscurity because we have nothing overly positive or negative about us anymore.
 
They haven't admitted it though. They sold this season, with higher ticket prices, as an ambitious promotion campaign. They might have admitted it to themselves but they haven't said we're re-building so don't expect promotion this year. We also sold our best player and haven't re-invested it in quality.

Last time we got to the playoff final we strengthened the team in the summer and built on that and were even better the following year. This year we've decided to throw away all that was good and start again. We're left with a squad that if we had been promoted would have been all the players we would have looked to replace because they weren't good enough.

I read other sites like Reddit which has a really good championship area and there have been several posts recently asking who is the best player in the championship, who's the most exciting, if you could have a player from any other team who would it be type of posts and we never get a mention. We don't have any stand-out quality player anymore. We don't even have anyone who is exciting. We have a bunch of average championship players, and Hackney (who will be the next to be sold and not replaced). Last season our players were the answers to all those questions. I think seeing us as a neutral obviously is different than the way our own fans look at us and we have fallen into midtable obscurity because we have nothing overly positive or negative about us anymore.
I doubt many Reddit users would have mentioned a Boro player in that context at this time last season. When we were 13th with 30 points. Probably lots of envious glances at QPR and Watford players though.
There's a long way to go. More than half the season including a transfer window. Don't write it off yet.
 
We don't have any stand-out quality player anymore. We don't even have anyone who is exciting. We have a bunch of average championship players, and Hackney (who will be the next to be sold and not replaced). Last season our players were the answers to all those questions. I think seeing us as a neutral obviously is different than the way our own fans look at us and we have fallen into midtable obscurity because we have nothing overly positive or negative about us anymore.

Jesus christ. While we're clearly not what we would hope to be what a load of drivel.

We don't have anyone who is exciting? Inconsistent they may be, but Jones, McGree, Rogers, Greenwood and Lath are all more than capable of getting you out of your seat.

Hackney is also an absolute joy to watch and is stand out quality.

"We have nothing overly positive or negative about us". Are you kidding?

Our defending has been absolutely ***** in the main, there's your negative.

But some of the attacking football has been brilliant. We nearly always score, even if we don't, we always create big chances. Even if when playing badly.

The quality and consistency hasn't been there this season yet. But it's still night and day in terms of style compared to what we've had to endure under the likes of Pulis and Warnock.

Seriously criticise the results by all means. But if you can't find anything to enjoy about watching us under Carrick, maybe supporting the boro isn't for you.
 
I read other sites like Reddit which has a really good championship area and there have been several posts recently asking who is the best player in the championship, who's the most exciting, if you could have a player from any other team who would it be type of posts and we never get a mention. We don't have any stand-out quality player anymore. We don't even have anyone who is exciting. We have a bunch of average championship players, and Hackney (who will be the next to be sold and not replaced). Last season our players were the answers to all those questions. I think seeing us as a neutral obviously is different than the way our own fans look at us and we have fallen into midtable obscurity because we have nothing overly positive or negative about us anymore.

Any chance you could stay on Reddit?
 
They haven't admitted it though. They sold this season, with higher ticket prices, as an ambitious promotion campaign. They might have admitted it to themselves but they haven't said we're re-building so don't expect promotion this year. We also sold our best player and haven't re-invested it in quality.

Last time we got to the playoff final we strengthened the team in the summer and built on that and were even better the following year. This year we've decided to throw away all that was good and start again. We're left with a squad that if we had been promoted would have been all the players we would have looked to replace because they weren't good enough.

I read other sites like Reddit which has a really good championship area and there have been several posts recently asking who is the best player in the championship, who's the most exciting, if you could have a player from any other team who would it be type of posts and we never get a mention. We don't have any stand-out quality player anymore. We don't even have anyone who is exciting. We have a bunch of average championship players, and Hackney (who will be the next to be sold and not replaced). Last season our players were the answers to all those questions. I think seeing us as a neutral obviously is different than the way our own fans look at us and we have fallen into midtable obscurity because we have nothing overly positive or negative about us anymore.
You mentioned we lost 5 players so it was always going to be a rebuild? whether the club wanted them or not giles, archer, ramsey and steffan were not available to us.

So to match your expectations of strengthening we needed 4 first team players to replace the 4 above that in the end cost upwards of 30 million, plus extra players on top of that to add strength to last years team and all that without selling Akpom. Come on mate its totally unrealistic.

Scott came out and said loaning wasnt the route and we had to be smarter. The money isnt there to buy top end players we have to get used to it.

They obviously never said we aren't going for promotion there would have been uproar but looking at the squad which you think is rubbish did you really expect it.

There's lots to be positive about for me. In parts we have played some great football (yes some awful too), beat some good teams and players like Hackney, VDB, Coburn look exciting.
 
We're exactly where we were last season.. even with injuries the squad is stronger. January to bring in a replacement for Archer and defensive reinforcements.. we'll be cooking on gas.
I don't think it's as bad as some are making out but I also don't see us pushing out the boat on loans in January.

We *could* bring in some really top drawer loans and end up with a post-window squad that looks really good. E.g. [loan]
Dieng / Glover
[Bradley] / Dijksteel
Fry / RVDB
[Worrall] / Clarke
Engel / Bangura
Hackney / Barlaser
[O'Brien] / Howson
Jones / Forss
[Greenwood] / Crooks
McGree / Rogers
[Duran] / Latte Lath

Thing is, if we don't get promoted, which is the most likely outcome, we end up back at square 1. The 5 loanees all go back home and we repeat the process next season with all our punts having spent most of 2024 on the bench. What we need are 3-4 of our permanents to really step up so that, by the end of the season, we have a core of 9 or so 1st teamers who are as good as anyone in the league. It's possible. but the only way they'll prove it is by playing week in, week out. You can see the likes of Latte Lath, Rogers, RVDB could all really grow over the second half of the campaign but not if we block their match time with loans.

Not saying there won't be a loan or a new purchase. We desperately need a right back and a loan could patch that position without blocking off any young players.
 
I don't think it's as bad as some are making out but I also don't see us pushing out the boat on loans in January.

We *could* bring in some really top drawer loans and end up with a post-window squad that looks really good. E.g. [loan]
Dieng / Glover
[Bradley] / Dijksteel
Fry / RVDB
[Worrall] / Clarke
Engel / Bangura
Hackney / Barlaser
[O'Brien] / Howson
Jones / Forss
[Greenwood] / Crooks
McGree / Rogers
[Duran] / Latte Lath

Thing is, if we don't get promoted, which is the most likely outcome, we end up back at square 1. The 5 loanees all go back home and we repeat the process next season with all our punts having spent most of 2024 on the bench. What we need are 3-4 of our permanents to really step up so that, by the end of the season, we have a core of 9 or so 1st teamers who are as good as anyone in the league. It's possible. but the only way they'll prove it is by playing week in, week out. You can see the likes of Latte Lath, Rogers, RVDB could all really grow over the second half of the campaign but not if we block their match time with loans.

Not saying there won't be a loan or a new purchase. We desperately need a right back and a loan could patch that position without blocking off any young players.
I can see us buying that Sam Curtis.. loaning Joe Worrel with an option to buy in the summer (with an eye on paddy’s contract?

If we don’t get promoted we will be in a stonger position than we started this season.

of the players that will four attention I think we have academy lads looking to step up in those positions..

Maybe:
Hackney: Jack Stott
McGree: Issac Fletcher
O’Brien: AJ Bridge
Fry: Jack Hannah
Jones: Cain Sykes
Bangura: Bryant Bilongo
Greenwood: Law McCabe
On loan striker: Daniel Nkrumah

8 players most of which I think will stay.

This January will be VERY interesting
 
Nope

Latte Lath is one goal ahead of Akpom.. Greenwood is one or two goals ahead of Ramsey has been with us for half a season longer and will hopefully continue to contribute more!

Silvera replaces Walker and has 5 goal contributions, Rogers replaces Ridley and looks like an earlier version of Tavernier

Left wing.. doing really well

No it can’t Engel and Bangura are solid full time replacements for.. Giles who did his best work first half of the season. Bs guts has already shown he can replicated the assists snd Engel is much stronger defensively.

Pure guff

They all compare very favourably.. recruitment has been ace! Giles, Ramsey & Co have entered mythological status!

Ramsey injured, Archer would be itching for a move and we saw the best of Giles first half of last season.

We’d be around the same position and folks would still be moaning!

Improving, already equal to last year and will get better.

No.. they wouldn’t have played as much most likely. O’Brien replaces Mowett who missed out most of last season btw, Lenihan replaced by Clarke.. revitalised Jones ahead of Forss.. RVDB & Dijksteel been decent at right back. Greenwood doing a good job filling in for McGree

Dairylea?

Howson is mega. Hackney starts over Barlaser when fit.

Crooks is class!

No

Lath as a 10 with Josh as a 9 could be an option (if fit) tough on Crooks mind

Carrick is consistent and we’ve seen players for in really well and hit the ground running as a result.

Striker defo, central defender.. and hopefully a right back!

Nah.. left back is stacked

Yup

Cool Mang

UTB!

The irony of you saying 'pure guff' to anyone is absolutely top notch.

Stick to the FM scouting reports and fantasy football lad :ROFLMAO:

If I have time after reading the other replies I might take a nibble at some of your more interesting takes.
 
This, as with most of your posts is based on diddly squat though, isn't it?

Please describe to me from your own viewing what these players you've mentioned are like and what makes them likely to fill the boots of the players you've mentioned alongside them?
I can see us buying that Sam Curtis.. loaning Joe Worrel with an option to buy in the summer (with an eye on paddy’s contract?

If we don’t get promoted we will be in a stonger position than we started this season.

of the players that will four attention I think we have academy lads looking to step up in those positions..

Maybe:
Hackney: Jack Stott
McGree: Issac Fletcher
O’Brien: AJ Bridge
Fry: Jack Hannah
Jones: Cain Sykes
Bangura: Bryant Bilongo
Greenwood: Law McCabe
On loan striker: Daniel Nkrumah

8 players most of which I think will stay.

This January will be VERY interesting
 
Nope

Latte Lath is one goal ahead of Akpom.. Greenwood is one or two goals ahead of Ramsey has been with us for half a season longer and will hopefully continue to contribute more!

Silvera replaces Walker and has 5 goal contributions, Rogers replaces Ridley and looks like an earlier version of Tavernier

Left wing.. doing really well

No it can’t Engel and Bangura are solid full time replacements for.. Giles who did his best work first half of the season. Bs guts has already shown he can replicated the assists snd Engel is much stronger defensively.

Pure guff

They all compare very favourably.. recruitment has been ace! Giles, Ramsey & Co have entered mythological status!

Ramsey injured, Archer would be itching for a move and we saw the best of Giles first half of last season.

We’d be around the same position and folks would still be moaning!

Improving, already equal to last year and will get better.

No.. they wouldn’t have played as much most likely. O’Brien replaces Mowett who missed out most of last season btw, Lenihan replaced by Clarke.. revitalised Jones ahead of Forss.. RVDB & Dijksteel been decent at right back. Greenwood doing a good job filling in for McGree

Dairylea?

Howson is mega. Hackney starts over Barlaser when fit.

Crooks is class!

No

Lath as a 10 with Josh as a 9 could be an option (if fit) tough on Crooks mind

Carrick is consistent and we’ve seen players for in really well and hit the ground running as a result.

Striker defo, central defender.. and hopefully a right back!

Nah.. left back is stacked

Yup

Cool Mang

UTB!
"Nope"
- Dismissive and rude.

"Latte Lath is one goal ahead of Akpom.. Greenwood is one or two goals ahead of Ramsey has been with us for half a season longer and will hopefully continue to contribute more!"
- I bet you every penny in my bank account that Lath doesn't score 20 league goals this season. Greenwood has scored more goals but the game is about more than just that as most of us know.

"Silvera replaces Walker and has 5 goal contributions, Rogers replaces Ridley and looks like an earlier version of Tavernier."
- Walker who didn't play a first team game for us last season and has almost disappeared from the game? Ridley? Looks like Tav? They're completely different types of players, what on earth are you watching? Tav was immense at recoveries and providing extra legs, energy and grit in midfield, they are barely alike!

"Left wing.. doing really well"
- Silvera has been tried there but seemingly can't hold down a place. McGree was out of favour, played his way in and got a tricky injury. Greenwood is arguably better centrally and loses the ball so often he has constant threads bemoaning him, see also Rogers.

"No it can’t Engel and Bangura are solid full time replacements for.. Giles who did his best work first half of the season. Bs guts has already shown he can replicated the assists snd Engel is much stronger defensively."
- Giles had lots more experience in the division, was one of the highest assisters in the league for Blackburn and then us. Had composure and drive, was tighter with his passing and looked more spacially aware than either of these two lads who don't look much better than Bola/Dijksteel in terms of quality at the moment. One has got a premier league move and will continue to be top end Championship/lower end prem. Bangura and Engel may well improve but are both older and have nowhere near the same output or pedigree.

"Pure guff"
- A bit rude and you could expand a little. As far as I can see, Howson was injured for a chunk of time, now Howson is. Barlaser was behind Mowatt in last season's pecking order. So, not really guff is it when a lad who couldn't get a kick last season is now a first team regular and despite playing some nice stuff has been at fault for multiple goals, again 'inconsistency' is the point being made in my post.

"They all compare very favourably.. recruitment has been ace! Giles, Ramsey & Co have entered mythological status!"
- They have moved for 5m, 12m, 20m & 10m (due to last year of contract) respecitvely. None of their replacements will be worth those values at the end of the season. Most football fans understand this. It baffles me that you don't.

"Ramsey injured, Archer would be itching for a move and we saw the best of Giles first half of last season."
- I wouldn't have signed Ramsey for this reason, however he is still a better footballer when fit than any of our lads in the positions behind the striker, demonstrably. Giles had loads of great moments in the second half of the season. Archer itching for a move is complete supposition.

"We’d be around the same position and folks would still be moaning!"
- With higher quality players who are more familiar with each other + any other additions we made, we would likely be a lot closer but that's my opinion. It wasn't financially viable. You're entitled to your view. Also, you're seemingly ignoring Wilder's start to the season.

No.. they wouldn’t have played as much most likely. O’Brien replaces Mowett who missed out most of last season btw, Lenihan replaced by Clarke.. revitalised Jones ahead of Forss.. RVDB & Dijksteel been decent at right back. Greenwood doing a good job filling in for McGree
- Dijksteel has barely played and has looked vulnerable and clumsy when he has. RVDB looks good for a centre half at full-back but still doesn't look a natural there to me. Mowatt missed most of the season because he was bogging under Wilder and couldn't get in over Howson and Hackney when Carrick came in. Clarke - great but not sure he's as good and recovering from a very serious injury. Jones is still hit and miss.

Dairylea?
- Don't be facetious. It makes your borderline amusing nonsense distinctly less funny.

"Crooks is class!"
- He's a middling Championship midfielder in the vast majority of things he does. He does have a knack for an important goal or the occasional killer pass though, however he's often clumsy, sloppy and average posiitonally.

"No."
- Okay, in the interest of actual discussion. How do you prefer those players, in particular Rogers?

"Lath as a 10 with Josh as a 9 could be an option (if fit) tough on Crooks mind"
- I'd like to see Lath as a ten, too, I worry the ball wouldn't stick with him much but he'd run behind Coburn which would be interesting. Not sure if that leaves us light in the middle during transitions if one of the fullbacks has pressed though.

"Carrick is consistent and we’ve seen players for in really well and hit the ground running as a result."
- Our results are consistently inconsistent. He's consistent in his defending of the players and trying to keep a feel good atmosphere at the club. I am fully behind him and get excited to watch our games under him.

"Striker defo, central defender.. and hopefully a right back!"
- I hope so, as there's possibly players with more pedigree than Coburn that would ease the pressure on him. Real shame what happened to Lenihan and Smith and I think their leadership qualities and consistency has been missed as much as their talent. Let's hope we unearth a gem during our need to cover them in January.

"Nah.. left back is stacked"
Neither have fully impressed, Coulson was given one last bite at it but isn't good enough unfortunately. We are still looking at options though it isn't a priority in January.

Apologies for my grumpiness, it's a direct response to your facetiousness and perpetually odd takes which I usually quite enjoy when they're not infused with whatever you were on during this response.
 
Obviously no team deliberately misses a chance of promotion in order to develop a bit more, but sometimes it is a blessing in disguise.
As for your examples of Brighton & Brentford - both hung around the top half/play-offs for a few seasons before finally going up. Maybe they were better prepared with more balanced squads because of that.
Brentford are a great example of a club which buys players on the cheap and sells them for a much higher fee, they did it with Konsa and Maupay the summer before they got promoted, but they still signed Ivan Toney for a big transfer fee that same summer.

The reality probably is that we're not going to get promoted only buying players on the cheap each summer, with the view of developing them, but if we sell Hackney and VDB next summer and make say £40m, maybe we'll be in a position where we can afford to spend a decent amount on a player of proven pedigree - and he'll be joining up with a squad of settled players.

I'm not sure whether this is the club's long-term plan.
 
"Nope"
- Dismissive and rude.
Quick and to the point
"Latte Lath is one goal ahead of Akpom.. Greenwood is one or two goals ahead of Ramsey has been with us for half a season longer and will hopefully continue to contribute more!"
- I bet you every penny in my bank account that Lath doesn't score 20 league goals this season. Greenwood has scored more goals but the game is about more than just that as most of us know.
at this point in the season Latte Lath being one goal behind our record top scorer from a standing start isn’t art bad. 15 goals would be a great return. as for Ramsey.. he played 671 minutes for us.. the game is more than just goals.
"Silvera replaces Walker and has 5 goal contributions, Rogers replaces Ridley and looks like an earlier version of Tavernier."
- Walker who didn't play a first team game for us last season and has almost disappeared from the game?
Exactly my point.. he’s replacing a player that did not contribute. Already contributing the same as the fabled Ramsey!
Joe Ridley.. look him up. Check out our recruitment who we have brought in and who we’ve let go.
Looks like Tav? They're completely different types of players, what on earth are you watching? Tav was immense at recoveries and providing extra legs, energy and grit in midfield, they are barely alike!
"Left wing.. doing really well"
He got on the ball an awful lot and he was derided by fans early doors for missing chances and giving the ball away. VERY similar to Tav in that he is going to be a top player.
- Silvera has been tried there but seemingly can't hold down a place. McGree was out of favour, played his way in and got a tricky injury. Greenwood is arguably better centrally and loses the ball so often he has constant threads bemoaning him, see also Rogers.
Huh?
"No it can’t Engel and Bangura are solid full time replacements for.. Giles who did his best work first half of the season. Bs guts has already shown he can replicated the assists snd Engel is much stronger defensively."
- Giles had lots more experience in the division, was one of the highest assisters in the league for Blackburn and then us. Had composure and drive, was tighter with his passing and looked more spacially aware than either of these two lads who don't look much better than Bola/Dijksteel in terms of quality at the moment. One has got a premier league move and will continue to be top end Championship/lower end prem. Bangura and Engel may well improve but are both older and have nowhere near the same output or pedigree.
Bangura’s output is the same as Giles’ and Engel is better defensively.
"Pure guff"
- A bit rude and you could expand a little. As far as I can see, Howson was injured for a chunk of time, now Howson is. Barlaser was behind Mowatt in last season's pecking order. So, not really guff is it when a lad who couldn't get a kick last season is now a first team regular and despite playing some nice stuff has been at fault for multiple goals, again 'inconsistency' is the point being made in my post.
Barlaser was behind Mowett like he was behind O’Brien
"They all compare very favourably.. recruitment has been ace! Giles, Ramsey & Co have entered mythological status!"
- They have moved for 5m, 12m, 20m & 10m (due to last year of contract) respecitvely. None of their replacements will be worth those values at the end of the season. Most football fans understand this. It baffles me that you don't.
We couldn’t afford them. Those prices are too much for what they would bring to the table. £5m would be a record fee for a championship full back. Our recruitment has been immense.. it does not baffle my that you do not understand this.
"Ramsey injured, Archer would be itching for a move and we saw the best of Giles first half of last season."
- I wouldn't have signed Ramsey for this reason, however he is still a better footballer when fit than any of our lads in the positions behind the striker, demonstrably. Giles had loads of great moments in the second half of the season. Archer itching for a move is complete supposition.
Why improve the talent we have on the injury table.. no point. We couldn’t afford.. simple as. Might as well harp on about us not signing Balogun for £30m!
"We’d be around the same position and folks would still be moaning!"
- With higher quality players who are more familiar with each other + any other additions we made, we would likely be a lot closer but that's my opinion.
Redundant point.. we needed to bring in new players.
It wasn't financially viable. You're entitled to your view. Also, you're seemingly ignoring Wilder's start to the season.
Wilders poor start, Carrick’s poor start.. different reasons but we’re looking for a similar season outcome.
No.. they wouldn’t have played as much most likely. O’Brien replaces Mowett who missed out most of last season btw, Lenihan replaced by Clarke.. revitalised Jones ahead of Forss.. RVDB & Dijksteel been decent at right back. Greenwood doing a good job filling in for McGree
- Dijksteel has barely played and has looked vulnerable and clumsy when he has. RVDB looks good for a centre half at full-back but still doesn't look a natural there to me.
Doesn’t look like a natural.. scraping the barrel there like.
Mowatt missed most of the season because he was bogging under Wilder and couldn't get in over Howson and Hackney when Carrick came in. Clarke - great but not sure he's as good and recovering from a very serious injury. Jones is still hit and miss
Mowett was injured a lot.. O’Brien was better when fit.
Dairylea?
- Don't be facetious. It makes your borderline amusing nonsense distinctly less funny.
I thought you’d like that one.
"Crooks is class!"
- He's a middling Championship midfielder in the vast majority of things he does. He does have a knack for an important goal or the occasional killer pass though, however he's often clumsy, sloppy and average posiitonally.
Gets results from that number 10 position.. two off games. But overall immense.
"No."
- Okay, in the interest of actual discussion. How do you prefer those players, in particular Rogers?
They are our players and they produce more overall than the players we had last season.
"Lath as a 10 with Josh as a 9 could be an option (if fit) tough on Crooks mind"
- I'd like to see Lath as a ten, too, I worry the ball wouldn't stick with him much but he'd run behind Coburn which would be interesting. Not sure if that leaves us light in the middle during transitions if one of the fullbacks has pressed though.
We might see something similar in the 2nd half of the season.. depending on the striker we bring in..
"Carrick is consistent and we’ve seen players for in really well and hit the ground running as a result."
- Our results are consistently inconsistent. He's consistent in his defending of the players and trying to keep a feel good atmosphere at the club. I am fully behind him and get excited to watch our games under him.
His approach is consistent.. so the players know where they are. Long term success over short term reactive nonsense.
"Striker defo, central defender.. and hopefully a right back!"
- I hope so, as there's possibly players with more pedigree than Coburn that would ease the pressure on him. Real shame what happened to Lenihan and Smith and I think their leadership qualities and consistency has been missed as much as their talent. Let's hope we unearth a gem during our need to cover them in January.
Fingers crossed! Keiren Scott sounds positive.
"Nah.. left back is stacked"
Neither have fully impressed, Coulson was given one last bite at it but isn't good enough unfortunately. We are still looking at options though it isn't a priority in January.
Engle had a small blip due to him being dropped in at the deep end.. Bangura has impressed.. two solid signings there.
Apologies for my grumpiness, it's a direct response to your facetiousness and perpetually odd takes which I usually quite enjoy when they're not infused with whatever you were on during this response.
Nee worries bonny lad x
 
Quick and to the point

at this point in the season Latte Lath being one goal behind our record top scorer from a standing start isn’t art bad. 15 goals would be a great return. as for Ramsey.. he played 671 minutes for us.. the game is more than just goals.

Exactly my point.. he’s replacing a player that did not contribute. Already contributing the same as the fabled Ramsey!

Joe Ridley.. look him up. Check out our recruitment who we have brought in and who we’ve let go.

He got on the ball an awful lot and he was derided by fans early doors for missing chances and giving the ball away. VERY similar to Tav in that he is going to be a top player.

Huh?

Bangura’s output is the same as Giles’ and Engel is better defensively.

Barlaser was behind Mowett like he was behind O’Brien

We couldn’t afford them. Those prices are too much for what they would bring to the table. £5m would be a record fee for a championship full back. Our recruitment has been immense.. it does not baffle my that you do not understand this.

Why improve the talent we have on the injury table.. no point. We couldn’t afford.. simple as. Might as well harp on about us not signing Balogun for £30m!

Redundant point.. we needed to bring in new players.

Wilders poor start, Carrick’s poor start.. different reasons but we’re looking for a similar season outcome.

Doesn’t look like a natural.. scraping the barrel there like.

Mowett was injured a lot.. O’Brien was better when fit.

I thought you’d like that one.

Gets results from that number 10 position.. two off games. But overall immense.

They are our players and they produce more overall than the players we had last season.

We might see something similar in the 2nd half of the season.. depending on the striker we bring in..

His approach is consistent.. so the players know where they are. Long term success over short term reactive nonsense.

Fingers crossed! Keiren Scott sounds positive.

Engle had a small blip due to him being dropped in at the deep end.. Bangura has impressed.. two solid signings there.

Nee worries bonny lad x
Redundant point.. we needed to bring in new players.
Apart from it isn’t redundant whatsoever within the point I was making about consistency as compared to last season is it?
Doesn’t look like a natural.. scraping the barrel there like.
He doesn’t look like a natural RIGHT BACK, because HE ISN’T ONE! Can you honestly not see that?
Why improve the talent we have on the injury table.. no point. We couldn’t afford.. simple as. Might as well harp on about us not signing Balogun for £30m!
I know we couldn’t afford. That’s precisely what I’m saying. I’m not bemoaning the lack of having signed any of the players I’ve mentioned because I know fine well it was never happening.
Joe Ridley.. look him up. Check out our recruitment who we have brought in and who we’ve let go.
I’m aware who he is, I know who’s on our roster. He just isn’t relevant to the bloody conversation and I don’t pretend to have some deep insight into these very young players who you’ve never even seen play.

Bangura’s output is the same as Giles’ and Engel is better defensively.
You can only play one at once fella and there’s so far no real evidence to say Bangura’s output is the same and I’ve seen Engel get skinned plenty!

Comprehension really isn’t your strong point is it?

We couldn’t afford them. Those prices are too much for what they would bring to the table. £5m would be a record fee for a championship full back. Our recruitment has been immense.. it does not baffle my that you do not understand this.
I know!!!! That’s the whole effin point I’m making. I’m not saying the recruitment has been bad. The jury based on our position as things stands is very much out. I’m suggesting that their lack of experience and quality at this level will yield the inconsistency we are currently seeing while you’re seemingly trying to insist they’re as good as what we let go.

I thought you’d like that one.
It was a facetious tos$ers answer because you’re a facetious tos$er who can’t follow his own train of thought yet acts like he understands football because he’s got transfermarkt.com and footy manager.
 
This succinctly highlights why I can't take you seriously.
We have replaced our entire squad.. on budget with wriggle room near enough like for like with room to grow. We failed to replace Cameron Archer.. but the decision to keep Josh Coburn was the right one I feel. January.. we replace Cameron Archer and cover Tommy Smith and Darragh Lenihan
 
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