The writing's on the wall, isnt it?

BoroMart said:
And the way to make the most of better players, is to give them space and that’s where a bigger pitch comes in
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Although if you think about it, better players don't need as much space. Big clumsy oafs do.
Wider pitches I imagine could benefit teams that sit back, allow the opposition to have possession then try and hit them on the break with long diagonals into space.
Whatever the case, I trust Carrick and his team to prepare us properly.
 
Marvanelli said:
You'd be shocked to find the size of the pitch does in deed have a bearing on games.

It's why Arsenal and Man City choose to have a big pitch. Barcelona have for a long time now.

Whereas, Luton choose to have a smaller pitch because it works in their advantage.
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Over the course if a season yes, not so sure about a one off promotion decider at Wembley, I think there are many other factors that will have a much bigger influence on the result.

If we get there I just hope we arrive on time this time 🙂
 
Rofesleg said:
Although if you think about it, better players don't need as much space. Big clumsy oafs do.
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better players do more with little space, but really hurt you if you give them space to use their technical ability. The game is all about finding space to use your technique.
 
BoroMart said:
You are partially right. It’s slightly less than one 18 yard box which is 660 sq m.

However saying less than 2m at each end is a weird way to say it, it’s over 4m longer and over 3 m wider. However you want to present it it’s a fact that there are 625 sq m more pitch to cover, that’s a lot.

It’s roughly 8% bigger, which for a defending team is 8% more running to cover the spaces and passing lines. It’s absolutely significant and absolutely noticeable.
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It isn't a weird way to say it. It's the reality.

The 18 yard box is a predetermined size, so the extra 2 metres in length appears between the half way line and the 18 yard box, at either end of the field. Defending in your 18 yard box is still the same, so I don't follow the 8% extra ground to cover argument. It's just slightly further from the 18 yard area to the halfway line.
 
Soutra said:
It isn't a weird way to say it. It's the reality.

The 18 yard box is a predetermined size, so the extra 2 metres in length appears between the half way line and the 18 yard box, at either end of the field. Defending in your 18 yard box is still the same, so I don't follow the 8% extra ground to cover argument. It's just slightly further from the 18 yard area to the halfway line.
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If the pitch is bigger of course you have extra ground to cover. You don’t just defend your 18 yard box, you defend across the whole pitch, so any point that the 18 yard box is a fixed size is bunk. You don’t defend from the half way line either. But let’s say that you do and you sit deep, to break away you’ve got a bit further to the halfway line, then a bit further again to get to the opposition box you can’t just flutter away the extra pitch size in such a way.

This isn’t even my point of view. How many times do you hear professional managers and commentators and current and ex pros on tv talking about the tight pitch at Kenilworth or Loftus Road and also talking about the big pitch at Wembley. That’s from the experts who know, who have been there and run on those pitches.

You say 2 metre extra either side of the hallway line. Ok as a midfielder if you give me an extra 4m space to the person marking me, I’ll pass the ball better, I’ll get my head up more and see the dangerous places to pass the ball. I’ll also struggle running an extra 4m every single time I have to close an opponent down during the match. That might be another 300-400m of running in a game
 
I think the old playing at Wembley thing used to be a lot more relevant in the past when club sides would have ricketty tight old grounds with a pitch like an allotment whereas Wembley was a big old open space that had a nice green pitch unless there has been a bros concert or monster truck racing in the past week.
 
BoroMart said:
If the pitch is bigger of course you have extra ground to cover. You don’t just defend your 18 yard box, you defend across the whole pitch, so any point that the 18 yard box is a fixed size is bunk. You don’t defend from the half way line either. But let’s say that you do and you sit deep, to break away you’ve got a bit further to the halfway line, then a bit further again to get to the opposition box you can’t just flutter away the extra pitch size in such a way.

This isn’t even my point of view. How many times do you hear professional managers and commentators and current and ex pros on tv talking about the tight pitch at Kenilworth or Loftus Road and also talking about the big pitch at Wembley. That’s from the experts who know, who have been there and run on those pitches.

You say 2 metre extra either side of the hallway line. Ok as a midfielder if you give me an extra 4m space to the person marking me, I’ll pass the ball better, I’ll get my head up more and see the dangerous places to pass the ball. I’ll also struggle running an extra 4m every single time I have to close an opponent down during the match. That might be another 300-400m of running in a game
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Easily replicated on a pitch with cones. An extra 2 metres difference is massive in that situation

Did no-one else used to drill keeping the ball in a tight square?
 
Urban_Legend said:
One step closer. I fear they want it more than us. Proper bedwetting it now.
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The worry is we don't know what Boro we are going to get.

If we play to our capabilities we should get past Coventry and be favourites for the final whoever we play, but it's whether we can just turn it on again and get back to playing the way we were, after a bit of an underwhelming run.

The players do seem to have been playing within themselves recently, which is understandable as nobody wants to get injured ahead of the playoffs.
 
parmoboy said:
The worry is we don't know what Boro we are going to get.

If we play to our capabilities we should get past Coventry and be favourites for the final whoever we play, but it's whether we can just turn it on again and get back to playing the way we were, after a bit of an underwhelming run.

The players do seem to have been playing within themselves recently, which is understandable as nobody wants to get injured ahead of the playoffs.
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Absolutely, the fact that we made our play off position safe early, may have had that effect of easing off and not wanting to get injured but the play off’s are now here, no more easing off hoping to get to Wembley or we won’t get there, would love to go all out tomorrow but suspect it will be a case of keeping it tight and hoping to get back to the Riverside unscathed.
 
Bernieslavenschin said:
Easily replicated on a pitch with cones. An extra 2 metres difference is massive in that situation

Did no-one else used to drill keeping the ball in a tight square?
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exactly, often used to do keep ball routines with my team. We used the 18 yard box for roughly 10 vs 6 keep ball, if the 10 struggled I added an extra 2-3 meters and suddenly the 6 defenders can't cover that extra ground to get near it.
 
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