Two government clowns...

[McBrid]

To be fair those in their 20’s were the biggest age group i think, that does not mean all in that age group are the cause or irresponsible, lots of good people in all age groups block21. Lots of people in all age groups flouting the rules too, the younger age group are more likely to go out and about in pubs and restaurants, socialise in groups and think they are invincible. I certainly did when i was in my 20’s.

Thankfully I never had this virus to stop my fun. It is harder on the younger folk especially as they are less likely to be seriously affected. However, thats where this virus is very clever it allows them to have fun, not be really affected, but host the virus to harm others by default. The only way we will ever get back to normality is by all of us practising self restraint, behaving responsibly until a vaccine is available. That task does hurt the younger folks lives the most, but failure to do so harms the older and more vulnerable permanently.

I know I watched the briefing. Doesn’t mean I have to stand for shoddy comments like lock all the under 30s out of pubs. I won’t go to a pub anyway now with my partner being pregnant as don’t wanna risk her getting it but just annoys me when age groups get all put under the same bracket. Think it’s disgusting to be honest

 

[coluka]

I hope you're correct and the message does get through. If it doesn't, we'll all suffer prolonged restrictions. Maybe I've become too cynical and/or negative about how some in society behave

If only we could impose enforceable restrictions on the hard of thinking while the rest of us go about our business in a responsible manner

By the message getting through, I meant in terms of simply hearing about it. Acting on the knowledge however is a very different ball game as we know. Unfortunately a few people of all ages live permanently in their own little bubble and don’t care about how their bubble affects anyone else, it’s just seen as being ‘tough sh*t’ or ‘how the cookie crumbles’, so long as they are ok thats all that matters.

 

[Capybara]

Unfortunately a few people of all ages live permanently in their own little bubble and don’t care about how their bubble affects anyone else, it’s just seen as being ‘tough sh*t’ or ‘how the cookie crumbles’, so long as they are ok thats all that matters.

I'm pretty sure a lot of them don't even give it that much thought.

 

[1finny]

The brilliant thing is Johnson and his cronies are winning
Everyone blaming ‘the public’ who haven’t used common sense - they must be laughing their asres off at how gullible and stupid we are.

 

[coluka]

I know I watched the briefing. Doesn’t mean I have to stand for shoddy comments like lock all the under 30s out of pubs. I won’t go to a pub anyway now with my partner being pregnant as don’t wanna risk her getting it but just annoys me when age groups get all put under the same bracket. Think it’s disgusting to be honest

I didn’t think he was being serious block21, I presumed it was meant as a sarcy joke tbh. If he was, then yes it was a stupid comment to make.

 

[Fluffycarpet]

I know I watched the briefing. Doesn’t mean I have to stand for shoddy comments like lock all the under 30s out of pubs. I won’t go to a pub anyway now with my partner being pregnant as don’t wanna risk her getting it but just annoys me when age groups get all put under the same bracket. Think it’s disgusting to be honest

Why get offended? You may be being responsible, but many young people aren't. I see it in my 18yr old daughter. She's young and invincible and still thinks I'm just nagging when I tell her to be careful.

 

[McBrid]

Why get offended? You may be being responsible, but many young people aren't. I see it in my 18yr old daughter. She's young and invincible and still thinks I'm just nagging when I tell her to be careful.

I get that, but you could say it about all ages about people being irresponsible. I don’t think tarnishing every individual in the same brush helps in these situations. Not offended as such, just winds me up.

 

[McBrid]

So for people who probably read more about this daily than me. Is it looking extremely likely another lockdown is on the horizon?

 

[A]

So for people who probably read more about this daily than me. Is it looking extremely likely another lockdown is on the horizon?

I won't claim to read up daily on this, but my opinion for what it's worth is that a mini (2 week?) lockdown is a certainty. Although it will no doubt be one of those "starting a week next Friday" implementations

 

[KingOfTheTribes]

I get that, but you could say it about all ages about people being irresponsible. I don’t think tarnishing every individual in the same brush helps in these situations. Not offended as such, just winds me up.

Na, I wasn't been serious. Broad measures are required. But the under 30's do need to accept that their age group has contributed more than others for the recent rise and not be too offended when they get the lions share of the blame.

I'd close the pubs for a month to slow it - unfortunately I don't think Johnson has the balls for that. It will be more half measures and then we'll see a national lockdown in November.

 

[McBrid]

I won't claim to read up daily on this, but my opinion for what it's worth is that a mini (2 week?) lockdown is a certainty. Although it will no doubt be one of those "starting a week next Friday" implementations

Thanks mate. Do you think it will be to the same extent as the last ‘lockdown’?

 

[McBrid]

Na, I wasn't been serious. Broad measures are required. But the under 30's do need to accept that their age group has contributed more than others for the recent rise and not be too offended when they get the lions share of the blame.

I'd close the pubs for a month to slow it - unfortunately I don't think Johnson has the balls for that. It will be more half measures and then we'll see a national lockdown in November.

Fair enough. I agree a pubs closure may be the best way forward. It wouldn’t bother me anyway.

 

[A]

Thanks mate. Do you think it will be to the same extent as the last ‘lockdown’?

No, I don't to be honest. I imagine schools and workplaces will remain open, pubs will close, but probably not restaurants (although more stringent implementation of guidelines, possibly some new ones too)

That's just my own speculation though and has no basis in fact

 

[Randy]

Oh look. Let’s blame all the young ones again. Unbelievable.

Exactly.

You'd think people would want the young to get the virus and help towards something of a population immunity. Youngsters are fair less likely to become seriously poorly or pass away from covid-19 than say an elderly person with many underlying health conditions. That's just common sense.

Lockdowns will do nothing but move the problem along which won't work. The first lockdown obviously didn't.

 

[Fluffycarpet]

Exactly.

You'd think people would want the young to get the virus and help towards something of a population immunity. Youngsters are fair less likely to become seriously poorly or pass away from covid-19 than say an elderly person with many underlying health conditions. That's just common sense.

Lockdowns will do nothing but move the problem along which won't work. The first lockdown obviously didn't.

Yeah, and it's good that young people don't pass on the virus to more vulnerable people.

 

[BoroFur]

I won't claim to read up daily on this, but my opinion for what it's worth is that a mini (2 week?) lockdown is a certainty. Although it will no doubt be one of those "starting a week next Friday" implementations

There was a suggestion that it would coincide with an extended October half term school holiday but that would be weeks away.

 

[Subbuteo_171]

Everyone needs to brace themselves for lockdowns in the school holidays up to and including Easter next year. Fully expecting the UK to be shut down completely over Christmas for at least 2 weeks in an attempt to stop family get togethers.

 

[TheYorkshireTerrier]

Why get offended? You may be being responsible, but many young people aren't. I see it in my 18yr old daughter. She's young and invincible and still thinks I'm just nagging when I tell her to be careful.

I see far more over 40/50s in the pub being irresonspible to be fair, which goes to show it is people of all age groups.

You could twist it, and suggest that under 30s were being more responsible by actually going to get tested, rather than just ignoring it and carrying on as normal? I would imagine the statistics show that the majority of the people working in restaurants during the eat out deal were under 30, maybe they got it from all the retired folk going out every day for some brunch?

 

[NoloBoro]

I don’t think it’s a case of age groups , having been various ages myself and seeing other people of various ages I think there’s a fair degree of stupidity, selfishness and ignorance sprinkled across all age groups.
so there we have it. I blame the stupid and the government (not wholly but for dithering)

if you impose any restrictions they have to be fairly instantaneous. No use saying after the weekend, just to give you all time to get hammered and hug each other we’re going to do x y and z.

 

[McBrid]

I don’t think it’s a case of age groups , having been various ages myself and seeing other people of various ages I think there’s a fair degree of stupidity, selfishness and ignorance sprinkled across all age groups.
so there we have it. I blame the stupid and the government (not wholly but for dithering)

if you impose any restrictions they have to be fairly instantaneous. No use saying after the weekend, just to give you all time to get hammered and hug each other we’re going to do x y and z.

well said