Vaccine Passports

The indoctrination is frightening.

The statistics have been completely manipulated on a massive scale - meaning COVID-19 deaths have been hugely overplayed.

I'm disgusted that anyone thinks a Vaccine Passport to enter anywhere is ok.

My business will NEVER request that, medical apartheid is created and you are agreeing with it.

See what the real agenda by checking out the test bed in Australia.

Horrific.
 
But the vaccines don't prevent transmission? So that argument is invalid. Rochelle Walensky of the CDC told you that recently.
 
mymatelookslikephilstamp said:
I don't mind you saying, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I don't feel comfortable taking the vax - if another option was available such as ability to test regulary then I would do this. But it is a blanket ban and the only option is to vax - an option that means you can still be infected and infect people. It isn't rational, it is coercion.
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It is rationale though. It reduces your chances of catching ti, reduces your chances of passing it on and dramatically reduces your chances of serious infection.

Given the vaccination had been administered to millions and millions of people, what is it you're not comfortable about? It is proven you know?
 
Evil said:
The indoctrination is frightening.

The statistics have been completely manipulated on a massive scale - meaning COVID-19 deaths have been hugely overplayed.

I'm disgusted that anyone thinks a Vaccine Passport to enter anywhere is ok.

My business will NEVER request that, medical apartheid is created and you are agreeing with it.

See what the real agenda by checking out the test bed in Australia.

Horrific.
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Well said Evil. Given the Moral Superiority from some of the 'FMTTM Clique' over the years on numerous issues I am shocked that they think this idea is acceptable. However intelligent they think they are, they simply cannot see the wood for the trees on this one.
 
A question for the people who don't feel like having the Covid vaccination but are happy for other people to take the small risk on their behalf. Where do you think we'd be if nobody had been vaccinated ?
 
DanJC said:
Well said Evil. Given the Moral Superiority from some of the 'FMTTM Clique' over the years on numerous issues I am shocked that they think this idea is acceptable. However intelligent they think they are, they simply cannot see the wood for the trees on this one.
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What does "can't see the wood for the trees" Mean in this context? It's not as shocking a process as you believe. People get restricted entry to various places all the time. In the midst of a pandemic it's not unreasonable for business to try and protect themselves and their customers by a means they see fit. The same way they didn't let people in without masks during the heights of the pandemic. It's a temporary measure to solve a very serious problem.
 
Centralscrutinizer said:
A question for the people who don't feel like having the Covid vaccination but are happy for other people to take the small risk on their behalf. Where do you think we'd be if nobody had been vaccinated ?
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We'd be in Lockdown because its a great coercion tool. Deprive people of their enjoyment, get them at home and bombard them with constant news updates to get them on board.

I'd throw a question back at you. If we go back into a Lockdown in October, now that everyone has been offered an injection who wants one, should we accept and comply with it?
 
DanJC said:
We'd be in Lockdown because its a great coercion tool. Deprive people of their enjoyment, get them at home and bombard them with constant news updates to get them on board.

I'd throw a question back at you. If we go back into a Lockdown in October, now that everyone has been offered an injection who wants one, should we accept and comply with it?
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"We'd be in lockdown" So you admit the vaccine works and that the consequences of not taking it are more dire than restricting unvaccinated people entry into certain limited businesses?
 
SmallTown said:
"We'd be in lockdown" So you admit the vaccine works and that the consequences of not taking it are more dire than restricting unvaccinated people entry into certain limited businesses?
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I admit that Lockdown is a punishment imposed by the Government if the masses do not generate a sufficient injection uptake. In response to your second point, you admit that the vaccines work. So you don't expect us to be back in Lockdown this winter? As the injection is the key to returning to normality correct?
 
SmallTown said:
What does "can't see the wood for the trees" Mean in this context? It's not as shocking a process as you believe. People get restricted entry to various places all the time. In the midst of a pandemic it's not unreasonable for business to try and protect themselves and their customers by a means they see fit. The same way they didn't let people in without masks during the heights of the pandemic. It's a temporary measure to solve a very serious problem.
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It sets a precedent where the Government can decide what goes in your body from here on out or if you refuse the blackmail your life your now a second class citizen. I certainly don't think that's acceptable. Its a temporary measure? Come on SmallTown you can't tell me you really believe that.
 
DanJC said:
I admit that Lockdown is a punishment imposed by the Government if the masses do not generate a sufficient injection uptake. In response to your second point, you admit that the vaccines work. So you don't expect us to be back in Lockdown this winter? As the injection is the key to returning to normality correct?
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You genuinely think lockdown is a "punishment"? I mean that's a very strong word. I think it was a way of attempting to keep the spread down when there was no vaccination and the spread was out of control. So no, I don't expect another lockdown if we get enough of the population fully vaccinated.
 
Let me re-ask my earlier question to any of the anti vaccination posters.
Have you had any other vaccinations in your life. MMR, Tetanus, Yellow Fever or others for travel abroad ?
 
SmallTown said:
You genuinely think lockdown is a "punishment"? I mean that's a very strong word. I think it was a way of attempting to keep the spread down when there was no vaccination and the spread was out of control. So no, I don't expect another lockdown if we get enough of the population fully vaccinated.
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I truly do SmallTown. Also thank you for answering the second part.
 
Centralscrutinizer said:
Let me re-ask my earlier question to any of the anti vaccination posters.
Have you had any other vaccinations in your life. MMR, Tetanus, Yellow Fever or others for travel abroad ?
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what are you comparing here? People aren’t used to having vaccinations to enter night clubs or go to the costa del sol

shipping off to Africa quite a rare occurrence for most people. Certainly a bigger undertaking than going down the black bull
 
Centralscrutinizer said:
Let me re-ask my earlier question to any of the anti vaccination posters.
Have you had any other vaccinations in your life. MMR, Tetanus, Yellow Fever or others for travel abroad ?
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If those people answer yes to those injections, is it intelligent to brand them anti-vaccination posters?
If people decline a covid booster injection this autumn, will you class them as anti-vaccination by that logic?

Also @Centralscrutinizer, please answer this question "If we go back into a Lockdown in October, now that everyone has been offered an injection who wants one, should we accept and comply with it?". Since I was good enough to answer yours, thank you.
 
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DanJC said:
If those people answer yes to those injections, is it intelligent to brand them anti-vaccination posters?
If people decline a covid booster injection this autumn, will you class them as anti-vaccination by that logic?

Also @Centralscrutinizer, please answer this question "If we go back into a Lockdown in October, now that everyone has been offered an injection who wants one, should we accept and comply with it?". Since I was good enough to answer yours, thank you.
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If they do answer yes to having had other injections you have to question why they won't have this one or why they are against these specific vaccine passport yet happy for yellow fever (for example) vaccine passports that still exist?

Also, if the anti vaccine passport movement was around in 1897 we'd still be dying of smallpox. That's food for thought
 
DanJC said:
If those people answer yes to those injections, is it intelligent to brand them anti-vaccination posters?
If people decline a covid booster injection this autumn, will you class them as anti-vaccination by that logic?

Also @Centralscrutinizer, please answer this question "If we go back into a Lockdown in October, now that everyone has been offered an injection who wants one, should we accept and comply with it?". Since I was good enough to answer yours, thank you.
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If we need to lockdown again I'd be complying. I'm happy to do whatever it takes to help everyone else. It shouldn't be needed if enough people have the common sense to get vaccinated though 😗
 
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