Villa bid for Morgan Rogers

[fmttmadmin]

I think Riley's definitely off too, there were rumours he wanted away last window.

Yes but it was actually that he already had his foot injury.

 

[Archiestephens_elbow]

Swap him for Ollie Watkins

 

[Diego]

I'm far from being controversial, I just don't think he's an established Championship footballer never mind a Premier League player. He is nowhere near the levels of Archer or Ramsey and Villa let both of them players go.

5 million is a lot for a player who wouldn't be in our starting elven if it wasn't for injuries.

Here we go with people overrating Ramsey again. Rogers will have a better career.

He also is in our best team. Carrick has given him time to get used to the sourroundings and way we play and now I’d be surprised if he’s not in the starting eleven for the rest of the season. He’s a special, special talent.

 

[B_G]

It does work the other way though, a short contract length drives a price down.

I did say that in the first line of my post

 

[MichaelDebeve]

Swap him for Ollie Watkins

and £5 mill, plus loan Rogers back

 

[Norman_Conquest]

Here we go with people overrating Ramsey again. Rogers will have a better career.

He also is in our best team. Carrick has given him time to get used to the sourroundings and way we play and now I’d be surprised if he’s not in the starting eleven for the rest of the season. He’s a special, special talent.

Come on, you honestly don't think he's as good as Ramsey.

 

[Diego]

Come on, you honestly don't think he's as good as Ramsey.

Will go on to beWay better. Looks like Unai Emery thinks the same

 

[Biggy]

Morgan starts if everyone is fit.

8-9m with a sell on clause a d loaned back for this season. That would be great for all concerned if he has to go.

 

[UTB70]

Lose 1 player to invest in possibly 3 players makes sense to me if we recruit wisely. Makes us a better, stronger squad. We will soon move on if he goes. Wouldnt accept less than 10million though and a few clauses added too

 

[WilliamMunny]

But teams are only going to pay what a player is worth.

I'm sorry BG but that is objectively wrong. Is Caicedo worth over £100m? Lavia £60m? Did Maguire ever do anything to justify an £85m transfer fee? Anthony at Man Utd cost similar. These are but a few out of hundreds of examples of teams overpaying.

Rogers true value based on what he has achieved so far may be nowhere near £15m, but we don't want to sell and we don't need to sell. So if Villa or anyone else want to sign him, they have to pay what we demand. If they're not prepared to do so, he's going nowhere.

 

[Jonathan]

I'm sorry BG but that is objectively wrong. Is Caicedo worth over £100m? Lavia £60m? Did Maguire ever do anything to justify an £85m transfer fee? Anthony at Man Utd cost similar. These are but a few out of hundreds of examples of teams overpaying.

Rogers true value based on what he has achieved so far may be nowhere near £15m, but we don't want to sell and we don't need to sell. So if Villa or anyone else want to sign him, they have to pay what we demand. If they're not prepared to do so, he's going nowhere.

Sure I read that Man Utd’s own scouts deemed Antony worth about £25m and they still ended up paying £60m more

 

[TheYorkshireTerrier]

I wouldn't be interested in a 'loan back' at all. What's the point?

I'd rather give someone who actually has a future at the club a game than someone who we all know would be gone in a few months.

 

[The_Lizards_Jumpers]

I wouldn't be interested in a 'loan back' at all. What's the point?

I'd rather give someone who actually has a future at the club a game than someone who we all know would be gone in a few months.

I doubt Villa would either, it's one of those things that fans talk about all the time, like a "pay as you play deal" but in reality rarely happens.

 

[Nero]

I wouldn't be interested in a 'loan back' at all. What's the point?

I'd rather give someone who actually has a future at the club a game than someone who we all know would be gone in a few months.

The point is he’s a big part of the squad and team and would be difficult to replace within 2 weeks.

 

[B_G]

I'm sorry BG but that is objectively wrong. Is Caicedo worth over £100m? Lavia £60m? Did Maguire ever do anything to justify an £85m transfer fee? Anthony at Man Utd cost similar. These are but a few out of hundreds of examples of teams overpaying.

Rogers true value based on what he has achieved so far may be nowhere near £15m, but we don't want to sell and we don't need to sell. So if Villa or anyone else want to sign him, they have to pay what we demand. If they're not prepared to do so, he's going nowhere.

Fair enough. Well managed clubs will only pay what a player is worth....

But another thing to consider is that all of those examples are players who were playing top level and international football at the time of the sale. So there will have been less risk perceived with them.

 

[WilliamMunny]

The point is he’s a big part of the squad and team and would be difficult to replace within 2 weeks.

So why sell him when we don't need to?

 

[B_G]

The point is he’s a big part of the squad and team and would be difficult to replace within 2 weeks.

Azaz????

 

[B_G]

So why sell him when we don't need to?

Because that's the model isn't it? The model that is so often quoted on this board.
Buy development players for cheap and sell them for big profit.

Don't understand why so many people getting twisted up when it comes to the sale part.

 

[TeaCider]

I wouldn't be interested in a 'loan back' at all. What's the point?

I'd rather give someone who actually has a future at the club a game than someone who we all know would be gone in a few months.

Yeah, I never understand the clamour for loan backs.

I'd sooner a clean break.

Leeds loaned back Jack Clarke and basically stopped playing him because there wasn't any reward to persisting.

 

[Chappy112]

Love watching Rogers in a Boro shirt but I must admit it is very nice that big clubs are interested in our players over the last couple of seasons.