We got a slice of luck…
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sambasauce
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It was definitely a red. Our good fortune came from their player being so daft to kick Howson (however soft) in a game where they were cruising.
HolgateCorner
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Yeah he kicked out, you can’t do that, the Norwich player was completely stupid, if I was a Norwich fan I would be wanting him disciplined.
Red card all day long in the modern game.
northernrower
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This angle isn't the best.
From this view, Howson's body is actually blocking the intentional kick out.
I sit about 10 metres to the right of this camera and with the change in angle it was obvious.
Linny
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Well….we have now.
Poor from Howson but some of our fans think it’s fine “because other clubs do it”.
I’m sure they would have also defended a Norwich player had the shoe been on the other foot and they got one of our lads sent off.
If we are gonna call out awful decisions against us we should do the same when they go in our favour.
northernrower
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I love Jonny Howson
The_Lizards_Jumpers
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I bet you wouldn't be.
parmoboy
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Why should Howson be expected to just ignore it when an opposition player has deliberately set out to hurt him?
Even if there wasn't a lot in it the intent was there.
Centralscrutinizer
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I'm not seeing any luck involved, unless having a ref who knows the rules counts.
It does seem like a lot of our so called supporters were left disappointed with the red card though
It does seem like a lot of our so called supporters were left disappointed with the red card though
chickenrunner
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I suspect a lot of those in the 'never ever a red' camp would be absolutely blasting a Boro player in the same set of circumstances. I know the Boro aren't flavour of the month on or off the pitch at present but football fans can be weird sometimes.I'm not seeing any luck involved, unless having a ref who knows the rules counts.
It does seem like a lot of our so called supporters were left disappointed with the red card though
TeaCider
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I'm not seeing any luck involved, unless having a ref who knows the rules counts.
It does seem like a lot of our so called supporters were left disappointed with the red card though
We were lucky that a Norwich player lost his head in a game we were being totally dominated in, without it we'd have got absolutely nothing.
BoroMart
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having watched from that angle, it would seem that the lad stiffens his leg so that he makes stud contact on howson, never really gonna hurt, but it is a petty retaliation. The lads an idiot for doing it
BoroMart
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sometimes you need a little bit of luck to turn things around, we got it, lets make it count now and get a bit of consistent form and pull away from this nonsense at the bottom of the table
TeaCider
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Fingers crossed.
I don't think Carrick is daft, he'll be aware that the performance wasn't good enough before the card, hopefully he can tweak things and we finally go on a run.
QPR got a good result last night, they should have beaten a flying West Brom, so it's going to be a tough game.
BoroMart
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What exactly did howson do wrong, he didn't fling himself to the ground and roll around. he pointed to his thigh but the ref had seen it already
festa5
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Can't even believe it's a debate to be honest. Have people not watched football before? You cannot deliberately kick out at an opponent off the ball, it's always a red card. Doesn't matter how hard or otherwise the kick is. The fact this was with studs up, probably makes it more clear cut than some (even though it wasn't dangerous) .
Whether that rule, or application of it, is harsh is a different matter. But the same decision I'm confident would be made by any ref who has a clear view of it. Their player was an idiot, I'd be fuming if it was one of ours.
Juninhoburger
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This angle, hilariously posted by a Norwich fan as a defence of it NOT being a red card, actually shows just how deliberate it was.
Sainz spins round, looks directly at Howson, then extends his leg towards the ground via Howson's thigh. He then grabs his leg as if he's overstretched himself. Sneaky, but stupidly performed only yards away from the ref.
Sainz spins round, looks directly at Howson, then extends his leg towards the ground via Howson's thigh. He then grabs his leg as if he's overstretched himself. Sneaky, but stupidly performed only yards away from the ref.
parmoboy
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It was definitely intentional. I think him spinning on the floor was a natural reaction but if he hadn't have had any intention of catching Howson he'd have lowered his leg.
Also, notice he stops screaming out in pain after making contact with Howson's thigh. That was probably because he'd have felt satisfied he'd "given a little back".
Also, notice he stops screaming out in pain after making contact with Howson's thigh. That was probably because he'd have felt satisfied he'd "given a little back".