changingman
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She sounds like a much further right version of Cameron, Mr PR himself.
What is Johnson really after?
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festa5
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Mordaunt is more of a wildcard than Sunak. Given where they are she might be a better bet for the Tories (they've not got much to lose). Doesn't have the baggage and more charismatic. Also more likely to keep most of the MPs in line (If that's actually possible anymore).
Sunak might be seen as more steady, but steady isn't really going to cut it. Tory MPs can be vindictive b***ds and there's probably at least of third of them (whether they backed Boris or not) who hate him given he's seen as the Brutus to Johnson's Caesar. They'll be looking for any opportunity to undermine him.
Are either of them capable of navigating through the crisis, keeping their MPs on board and standing up to the pressure? Seems unlikely.
Sunak might be seen as more steady, but steady isn't really going to cut it. Tory MPs can be vindictive b***ds and there's probably at least of third of them (whether they backed Boris or not) who hate him given he's seen as the Brutus to Johnson's Caesar. They'll be looking for any opportunity to undermine him.
Are either of them capable of navigating through the crisis, keeping their MPs on board and standing up to the pressure? Seems unlikely.
Piccadilly Day Tripper
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Whenever the news has been on this weekend I've spent most of the time screaming at it. Not one commentator, politician, vox pop pensioner, or podcaster seems to take into consideration that putting aside the personality of the man, the internal tory politics, when he was in office he was actually just a **** PM, incapable of governing effectively, leaving all decisions until all he had was two terrible options, and not actually achieving anything with his massive stupid 'Got Brexit Done' mandate.
Brexit - not done as long as the N Ireland protocol isn't resolved.
COVID - so consistently messed up the big decisions and failed to communicate clearly that it has completely scrambled the economy
Levelling Up - well that's gone. A few of Houchen's mate's have done well out of it, mind.
Ukraine - name one Tory MP that would have done any differently. And his claim that he stood on his own in support of Zelensky is laughable.
He was losing byelections and local elections left, right and centre.
Everything he touches turns to ****.
But, no, you carry on Johnson, you let us know when you feel you're good and ready to come back to frontline politics, you utter ****.
Brexit - not done as long as the N Ireland protocol isn't resolved.
COVID - so consistently messed up the big decisions and failed to communicate clearly that it has completely scrambled the economy
Levelling Up - well that's gone. A few of Houchen's mate's have done well out of it, mind.
Ukraine - name one Tory MP that would have done any differently. And his claim that he stood on his own in support of Zelensky is laughable.
He was losing byelections and local elections left, right and centre.
Everything he touches turns to ****.
But, no, you carry on Johnson, you let us know when you feel you're good and ready to come back to frontline politics, you utter ****.
festa5
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If it wasn't so infuriating and frightening it'd be fascinating as a pure demonstration of the power of the media.
We all lived through it less than 6 months ago. We know what happened. Yet history is being rewritten right in front of us.
Quite a few seem to be buying it, but hard to know how many mind because social media isn't a reliable barometer and the likes of the BBC will speak to 50 people trying to find one idiot who wants to "bring back Boris" in the interest of "balance".
