Why are our set pieces so poor?

TheBlueButterfly

TheBlueButterfly

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Nothing really to do with todays game (I think we actually had a good chance from one corner), but overall, why are we so poor? It's incredible really that it seems to have been the case under most of our recent managers. Corners and free kicks are atrocious most of the time, even our throw ins seem like hard work most of the time!

Not even a whinge, just a question I seem to ask myself constantly! :ROFLMAO:
 
I suspect that it's a case of return on time invested. Do you spend an hour on something which statistically isn't going to be a massive improvement, or an hour sat with the team showing them exactly how the opposition play?

With the crazy schedule of this league at times, I can see it how just gets left until the pre-season.
 
I seem to remember a period under Warnock where we were creaming over the quality of McNair's set-piece deliveries. We just felt frustrated that we had nobody capable of taking advantage.

Definitely need McNair to be taking the corners ahead of Howson.
 
Throw ins drive me mad. Always throw it short so it bounces up and the recievers first touch is his chest or too long straight to his chest. We rarely cross over or throw straight to feet.
 
jeff_potato said:
I suspect that it's a case of return on time invested. Do you spend an hour on something which statistically isn't going to be a massive improvement, or an hour sat with the team showing them exactly how the opposition play?

With the crazy schedule of this league at times, I can see it how just gets left until the pre-season.
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I get that, but surely the players must work on them in training etc?
Blf said:
Throw ins drive me mad. Always throw it short so it bounces up and the recievers first touch is his chest or too long straight to his chest. We rarely cross over or throw straight to feet.
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Totally agree. When the opposition have a throw in, they seem to have plenty of men open, when it's us we always seem to have no one free! Bizarre! :ROFLMAO:
 
jeff_potato said:
I suspect that it's a case of return on time invested. Do you spend an hour on something which statistically isn't going to be a massive improvement, or an hour sat with the team showing them exactly how the opposition play?

With the crazy schedule of this league at times, I can see it how just gets left until the pre-season.
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How could it not be a massive improvement to give yourself an edge on set pieces and why would the two scenarios be mutually exclusive, do both, not one or the other surely.
 
Lack of finishers and lack of height in the side.

Crooks is the only tall regular who looks like scoring
 
I don't think the deliveries are the problem. We don't have an Ayala type CB or striker who attacks the ball, they ask wait for it to stop on their head instead.
 
Payero, when i saw him play for Argentina at the Olympics, was good at set pieces, hopefully he can show us something extra.
 
They have been for 5 years +. The only threat we've really had in years was Ayala.

We had 2 setplays experts in pulis and Warnock and they couldn't get us scoring. We even managed to make Flint stop scoring😂

This season is horrific. We must have better set play takers than Tav and Howson? Every corner just gets headed clear. I'm not sure if it's delivery or movement? I don't think we've got what you'd call brave or aggressive CBs who dominate from setplays (Like Morrison at Cardiff or Cooper at Millwall... Just horrible feckers).

I don't even get excited at corners. I've definitely given up on any threat of scoring from a direct free kick outside the box. I imagine we've scored about 2-3 in 3 years? If lucky🤔
 
Look at a top team like Liverpool (hate them btw)
Loads of set piece goals.
Look forward to the day when we score a few 'cheap' set pieces goals
 
Options of shooting from outside the box are rare but when they are on the cards we play it around the box and try and walk it in, which rarely works. This coupled with poor corners frustrates the shoite out of me.
 
Under Warnock McNair took all free kicks from out wide 30 meters or so from goal, whipped them in beautifully always created chances.
Since Wilder came he hasn’t took one, he has him in box where he hardly ever gets near anything.
Meanwhile Tav and Howsons free kicks are continually under-hit or over-hit.
 
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