Brian Marwood
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I'm happy about this as I'm sick of hearing Sweet Caroline every 5 minutes.
Yet another reason to love Neil Young.
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SilentProf
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Has Neil Diamond removed his songs too?
What do Neil Young and Pfizer have in common?
Blackrock have huge investments in both. Last year Blackrock invested $1 billion into Hipgnosis who own 50% of Neil Youngs catalogue.
Blackrock owned 7% of Pfizer in January 2021. Over the last year they've seen their investment increase in value by more than $7 billion. Imagine how much damage Rogan, with 50 million viewers of his Malone podcast, could do to their investment portfolio. Worth getting an aging artist to pull his music and start a trend.
Blackrock have huge investments in both. Last year Blackrock invested $1 billion into Hipgnosis who own 50% of Neil Youngs catalogue.
Blackrock owned 7% of Pfizer in January 2021. Over the last year they've seen their investment increase in value by more than $7 billion. Imagine how much damage Rogan, with 50 million viewers of his Malone podcast, could do to their investment portfolio. Worth getting an aging artist to pull his music and start a trend.
jonny_greenings_sock
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Controversial opinion maybe (and mainly because I'm gutted I now have to go to YouTube to listen to 'Harvest' and 'Blue'!):
I hope this doesn't become one of those pile-ons where loads of artists get involved because they don't want to be seen to be missing the boat.
With the greatest respect to Neil Young, who I love and respect his convictions on this, if we're policing Spotify for offensive or uncomfortable content then jesus christ where do you start... I listen to loads of 90s gangsta rap which vividly describes every crime imaginable with some incredibly violent language, and that's the tip of the iceberg. I bet there's some Norwegian Black Metal out there with unspeakable lyrics. Wagner was a massive Nazi, great tunes though.
In a song from 1969 called 'Down by the River' by, er, Neil Young, he describes murdering his girlfriend for cheating on him. That's not cool behaviour, and you either have to pick a position of "People shouldn't be allowed to listen to this misogynistic filth" and "It's just a song".
There was an arts festival in Sydney recently which went a bit cancel-tastic where 20 acts pulled out because of a Tel Aviv-based dance company appearing at the festival with the support of the Israeli Government, who co-sponsored the festival. One, I imagine the first couple pulled out through genuine conviction and the rest followed so as not to be the last act standing with the social media hot potato. Two, isn't it just a bit.... intolerant? I felt it was quite unfair on the dance company to be honest, it's like policing where they should be allowed to perform based on where they're from, which though a misguided gesture of solidarity towards one group, is actually really offensive and racist against another - I just felt quite sad for them, it's not like the Batsheva Dance Company are going around oppressing Palestinians.
I'm ambivalent about Joe Rogan, I don't listen to his podcast. But it seems anti-liberal and intolerant to start policing people's views that don't agree with yours, especially on a platform which exists to have something for everyone. Joe Rogan ain't losing this battle either with a $100m contract with Spotify and how little they pay artists for streaming, so Neil Young has little to lose. But it's an unbelievable platform because of the range of choice, genres and size of the catalogue, and it would a terrible shame if that gets lost because of a pile-on of, and I hate this phrase, virtue signalling.
The art isn't the artist. I could pick something to be offended by with most of my favourite bands - the Beatles have a song about wife beating and culturally appropriate Indian music; Jimmy Page had a 15 year old girlfriend; Prince and James Brown objectify women; Daft Punk are offensive against robots. Stop censoring things you don't agree with, that's the opposite of progressive. If it offends you, don’t listen to it.
I hope this doesn't become one of those pile-ons where loads of artists get involved because they don't want to be seen to be missing the boat.
With the greatest respect to Neil Young, who I love and respect his convictions on this, if we're policing Spotify for offensive or uncomfortable content then jesus christ where do you start... I listen to loads of 90s gangsta rap which vividly describes every crime imaginable with some incredibly violent language, and that's the tip of the iceberg. I bet there's some Norwegian Black Metal out there with unspeakable lyrics. Wagner was a massive Nazi, great tunes though.
In a song from 1969 called 'Down by the River' by, er, Neil Young, he describes murdering his girlfriend for cheating on him. That's not cool behaviour, and you either have to pick a position of "People shouldn't be allowed to listen to this misogynistic filth" and "It's just a song".
There was an arts festival in Sydney recently which went a bit cancel-tastic where 20 acts pulled out because of a Tel Aviv-based dance company appearing at the festival with the support of the Israeli Government, who co-sponsored the festival. One, I imagine the first couple pulled out through genuine conviction and the rest followed so as not to be the last act standing with the social media hot potato. Two, isn't it just a bit.... intolerant? I felt it was quite unfair on the dance company to be honest, it's like policing where they should be allowed to perform based on where they're from, which though a misguided gesture of solidarity towards one group, is actually really offensive and racist against another - I just felt quite sad for them, it's not like the Batsheva Dance Company are going around oppressing Palestinians.
I'm ambivalent about Joe Rogan, I don't listen to his podcast. But it seems anti-liberal and intolerant to start policing people's views that don't agree with yours, especially on a platform which exists to have something for everyone. Joe Rogan ain't losing this battle either with a $100m contract with Spotify and how little they pay artists for streaming, so Neil Young has little to lose. But it's an unbelievable platform because of the range of choice, genres and size of the catalogue, and it would a terrible shame if that gets lost because of a pile-on of, and I hate this phrase, virtue signalling.
The art isn't the artist. I could pick something to be offended by with most of my favourite bands - the Beatles have a song about wife beating and culturally appropriate Indian music; Jimmy Page had a 15 year old girlfriend; Prince and James Brown objectify women; Daft Punk are offensive against robots. Stop censoring things you don't agree with, that's the opposite of progressive. If it offends you, don’t listen to it.
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red_harrington
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If only it were so simple.
The problem is that offensive content or misinformation encourages and/or reinforces damaging beliefs on the people who do listen.
These are the very people who then go on to vote for extremist parties, protest against vaccination, abortion etc etc