Chansiri demands Sheff Wed fans pay £2m HMRC debt

The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
Yeah but our club is rotten to the core under Gibson, and he needs to sell up to the first Billy Billionaire who comes along - that way we're guaranteed to be the next Man City, no danger of a doyle like this buying us of course.
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I don’t think anyone has called for that to happen as you describe it above by the way. Oh and as and when the club eventually changes hands, and it will one day, Gibson himself will decide the way that eventually happens and to whom the reins are handed over to.

Shocking situation for Wednesdays though.
 
coluka said:
I don’t think anyone has called for that to happen as you describe it above by the way. Oh and as and when the club eventually changes hands, and it will one day, Gibson himself will decide the way that eventually happens and to whom the reins are handed over to.
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I love how people single out cases like this to prove their point but then completely ignoring the fact that almost every club above us in both the championship and the prem have foreign investment.
 
Jedi boro said:
I love how people single out cases like this to prove their point but then completely ignoring the fact that almost every club above us in both the championship and the prem have foreign investment.
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It's almost like it's a lottery rather than a guaranteed route to success, which was my point.

I love the way people also ignore the clubs below us who have foreign investment and have struggled with ownership issues to make their point.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
It's almost like it's a lottery rather than a guaranteed route to success, which was my point.

I love the way people also ignore the clubs below us who have foreign investment and have struggled with ownership issues to make their point.
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But that makes no sense though as my point is that just because it’s gone pear shaped at sheff wed doesn’t prove anything.

Coluka is right btw we are the anomaly now.
 
To be fair, £100 each isn't much for a lot of people to save their club. If it's cashflow then no probs really. If this was Boro someone would start a collection and the money would be raised. Then you need to make it all legal and documented. Someone like the old Adi Dem who was a lawyer I think could have done that.

There are a lot of words in his interview but the basic fact - they need £2m sharpish is quite simple.

How will the fans react? Probably boycott games or throw more tennis balls or something. But they could actually do something constructive to see if he is true to his word.
 
edinboro said:
To be fair, £100 each isn't much for a lot of people to save their club. If it's cashflow then no probs really. If this was Boro someone would start a collection and the money would be raised. Then you need to make it all legal and documented. Someone like the old Adi Dem who was a lawyer I think could have done that.

There are a lot of words in his interview but the basic fact - they need £2m sharpish is quite simple.

How will the fans react? Probably boycott games or throw more tennis balls or something. But they could actually do something constructive to see if he is true to his word.
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You can’t ask for 2 million pound from the fans and then slag them off at the same time. He does stuff like this every month. He’s an absolute waste of space. I really sorry for their fans.
 
He's asking for the fans to pay because he's thrown a strop and refused to put any more money after they criticised the way he was running the club.

The fans don't owe HMRC £2m, he does.
 
Jedi boro said:
But that makes no sense though as my point is that just because it’s gone pear shaped at sheff wed doesn’t prove anything.

Coluka is right btw we are the anomaly now.
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Of course it proves something, it proves that getting a rich foreign inestor is not the path to success that some claim when calling for Gibson to sell up.

There's plenty of clubs where it's gone belly up, yet they're often ignored and Leicester, Man City etc quoted as the "what we could become" rather than Charlton, Sheff Wed etc.
 
edinboro said:
To be fair, £100 each isn't much for a lot of people to save their club. If it's cashflow then no probs really. If this was Boro someone would start a collection and the money would be raised. Then you need to make it all legal and documented. Someone like the old Adi Dem who was a lawyer I think could have done that.

There are a lot of words in his interview but the basic fact - they need £2m sharpish is quite simple.

How will the fans react? Probably boycott games or throw more tennis balls or something. But they could actually do something constructive to see if he is true to his word.
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Given a lot of our fans moan about paying 30 odd quid for a match, I'm not so sure we'd raise it.

Obviously some people would put more than £100 quid in, but during these times many people couldn't afford to just toss £100 away with no hope of getting it back.
 
Jedi boro said:
But for every chansiri there’s an oyston or even a Mel morris

Being foreign isn’t the issue being dodgy though is.
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No one has said anything about foreign investors, you created that argument yourself. My original point was about "Billy Billionaires" you decided to go down a foreign investor route.

You're literally now agreeing with me that getting a new rich owner (whatever nationality) doesn't equate to instant success.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
Yeah but our club is rotten to the core under Gibson, and he needs to sell up to the first Billy Billionaire who comes along - that way we're guaranteed to be the next Man City, no danger of a doyle like this buying us of course.
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It was before covid that Gibson first called out Chansiri and the Wednesday owner's exceptionally questionable financial irregularities. Boro came under a lot of fire for trying to get Sheff Wed and Derby investigated but ultimately we were proven right they were cheating the Championship, football and their own fans. Both clubs were sanctioned and relegated. Chansiri is a walking timebomb for football.
 
I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of how Gibson is running the club.

But the thought of him selling up, sticking an advert in the classifieds "football club for sale, £143m, no time wasters, shysters, foreign investment funds, American Hedge Funds, dodgy billionaires" scares me.

So I will continue to be pretty hypocritical. 😳
 
Jedi boro said:
I love how people single out cases like this to prove their point but then completely ignoring the fact that almost every club above us in both the championship and the prem have foreign investment.
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The issue is about people as well as money. Football has had loads of examples of good and bad owners, both foreign and UK, we should know that as well as any club, it has also had examples of terrific foreign owners as well as UK ones. The issue is about due diligence and trust as well as money. However it is true that some owners that sell only look at the money, where more responsible owners should look at the buyer too.

If Gibson ever decided to sell, surely the fans who laud Gibson currently would also trust him to ensure as far as anyone can, that the buyer would hold the best interest of the club at heart for the long term as far as is possible. He will surely have already made a plan B in any event were he to suddenly no longer be with us or in a position to make important decisions.

The truth is you need money to invest in a club not just to make it successful, but then to sustain that. The investor has to be astute too and understand the business and have solid decision makers around them, oh and luck. It is a moot point anyway, I may be wrong, but I fail to see anyone being willing to buy the club and repay the debt currently owed unless huge right offs occur or somehow we manage to do a Brentford and it be repayed that way over time..
 
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