Corbyn on Piers Morgan show

GibbosEmpire said:
What's the point of having guests on if you don't let them speak and shout at them over and over again? I'm surprised JC didn't walk out

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You will not see peeople like Mark Regev being asked "do you condemn Israels murder of innocent babies and children and the shooting of unarmed civilians in the West Bank".
Because it doesnt fit the narrative.
Irony: the "media" claim Corbyn is a dead duck and on the fringe of British politics - yet they ask him on to try and knock him out.
Its not him the establishment has a problem with - its socialism, trades unionism, protection for the unemployed and those less well-off and support for the Palestinians they despise. As the huge protests in London and world-wide have demonstrated - the general public dont always swallow the propaganda. Jeremy Corbyn represents the politics the establishment and its lap-dogs despise and hate. But he aint going anywhere and neither is socialism.
 
Marvanelli said:
Both were as bad as each other.
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...where one was trying to give a measured opinion and the other was attempting a gotcha moment, failing miserably and resorting to behaving like a spoiled child. It's obvious that he had no interest in Corbyn's opinion. Has he ever demanded that a guest admits that Israel is a terrorist state before he allows them to continue?
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
...where one was trying to give a measured opinion and the other was attempting a gotcha moment, failing miserably and resorting to behaving like a spoiled child. It's obvious that he had no interest in Corbyn's opinion. Has he ever demanded that a guest admits that Israel is a terrorist state before he allows them to continue?
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We all know what Piers is like though. Everyone. He's made a living out of being a d!ck.

But Corbyn didn't help himself neither, sitting back and acting like a child also.

Both were embarrassing and pathetic during that interview....which was to be expected tbf.
 
I think Corbyn could have brought that to a halt quite easily by answering the question, he could have given a politician's answer, he could have qualified his answer, he could've related it to the ANC & Nelson Mandela being on the terrorist watch list until 2008, the talks with Sinn Féin while the IRA were operating, etc. It is only a 'gotcha' question if you keep throwing yourself back into your seat while whining 'Let me speak...'.
 
newusername said:
I think Corbyn could have brought that to a halt quite easily by answering the question, he could have given a politician's answer, he could have qualified his answer, he could've related it to the ANC & Nelson Mandela being on the terrorist watch list until 2008, the talks with Sinn Féin while the IRA were operating, etc. It is only a 'gotcha' question if you keep throwing yourself back into your seat while whining 'Let me speak...'.
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Why should Corbyn, probably the only politician who's been consistent and on point since Oct 7th, be forced to repeat words in a vacuum and without context before he is allowed to air his thoughts? Perhaps he shouldn't have gone on the show but he probably saw it as an opportunity to give a thought out point of view instead of just the soundbites we have to endure elsewhere. When did we reach this stage, where a prominent MP has to either toe the line or stay at home? It's no longer current affairs, it's performance.
 
What is clear now if it wasn't before that the anti Semitism claims relate to Jeremy Corbyn wanting Palestine to be recognised.. this along with many other things is officially seen as anti semitism.

We saw with Greta Thunberg's toy plush octopus which is used by autistic people to convey emotion.. the octopus is officially seen as anti semitism.. not limited to the octopus tho.. ANIMALS are seen as anti Semitism, GOLD, SILVER, MONEY, BANKING, LIES, WAR... to be honest reading through the literature.. there's not much that can't be pinned down as being anti semetic.

Now the problem we have with that is that anti semitism gets watered down to the point of nobody taking it seriously.. we have the likes of David Baddiel jumping on the bandwagon to sell a few books.. there's a far right wing regime in Israel that are using these seemingly never ending tropes to deflect and protect and in many ways become immune from criticism,

The scary thing for me is that I could never understand where the anti jew rhetoric came from in WW2 and how so many people bought into it and so many blindly followed.. how did it come about, how was it presented. Never have I been able to grasp and understand how such actions atrocities were able to be justified.. where did it start from.

Well.. if having a fair society for the many not the few.. is anti semetic and being anti climate change is anti semetic and being anti war in Palastine is anti semetic.. you soon see how public support could grow for being such.. especially when the term is being thrown around so much it has become de-valued.

Terrifying.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
Why should Corbyn, probably the only politician who's been consistent and on point since Oct 7th, be forced to repeat words in a vacuum and without context before he is allowed to air his thoughts? Perhaps he shouldn't have gone on the show but he probably saw it as an opportunity to give a thought out point of view instead of just the soundbites we have to endure elsewhere. When did we reach this stage, where a prominent MP has to either toe the line or stay at home? It's no longer current affairs, it's performance.
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Because he's on the show to add his voice to the call for a ceasefire. Letting Morgan dominate the interview by asking the same Q repeatedly and not answering, means that is the clip that is being circulated not whatever point he made about a ceasefire.
 

He takes a while to say he is no supporter of Hamas.. twitter, tictok, youtube etc.. do not lend themselves to composed and comprehensive thoughts and statements.
 
It's actually been obvious watching TV that alot of the presenters have no knowledge on what they're talking about. The British press and many politicians are showing that they're not people who do their homework and just shout their way through interviews

The media has shown incredible petulance towards guests who have an understanding on subjects which can be complex. And in in nearly every instance the studio guests have been a stark contrast, patiently explaining their views and understanding over hosts shouting at them.

Some presenters like Kay Burley had an OFCOM complaint against her because she fabricated what a Palestinian diplomat said and started asking her guests for comment on this made up quote.

All in all, I'm quite happy to see the press behave this way and show how bad they are.

They're not even showing empathy and at times seem more concerned with political point scoring rather than thousands being bombed. Ed Balls is a classic example. I'm guessing alot are narcissists

Corbyn was one of the earliest MPs to call for peace. To our press that makes him the bad guy. And both sides will have to negotiate towards peace.

We either have a negotiated ceasefire (which I'm sure will happen in Ukraine).
Or the alternative is Isreal continues to force people out of Gaza and we create an asylum crisis and tens of thousands more die

So it would have been better to have heard Corbyns opinion which would have been complex because it's a complex situation
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
Why should Corbyn, probably the only politician who's been consistent and on point since Oct 7th, be forced to repeat words in a vacuum and without context before he is allowed to air his thoughts?
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For clarification are you saying he has already condemned Hamas for their terrorism since 7th October?
 
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