Corbyn on Piers Morgan show

Alzi said:
If you can't handle oafs like Piers Morgan then you aren't really PM material in my opinion. Both came out of that not particularly well.

I'm not sure why it was so difficult for Corbyn just to say yes when asked if Hamas were a terrorist organisation? People will understandably read what they will into that outside of this largely pro Corbyn forum.

Tories would be having a field day with that if he was still in Labour.
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Maybe cos then they have the soundbite and have him pegged as an extremist.

Imagine having to repeat the same thing over and over defending a false narrative placed upon you.. it would be like posting on oneboro!
 
newyddion said:
Maybe cos then they have the soundbite and have him pegged as an extremist.

Imagine having to repeat the same thing over and over defending a false narrative placed upon you.. it would be like posting on oneboro!
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I'm not sure how having the view Hamas are a terrorist organisation makes you an extremist mind! Either way he'd have been better just answering the question but that seems too straight forward for most politicians.

If he doesn't think they're a Terrorist organisation he could explain his logic or vice versa. It wouldn't be any worse than leaving the answer open to interpretation as he did. It was like when people were trying to pin him down to his views about Brexit all over again.
 
Alzi said:
I'm not sure how having the view Hamas are a terrorist organisation makes you an extremist mind! Either way he'd have been better just answering the question but that seems too straight forward for most politicians.

If he doesn't think they're a Terrorist organisation he could explain his logic or vice versa. It wouldn't be any worse than leaving the answer open to interpretation as he did. It was like when people were trying to pin him down to his views about Brexit all over again.
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How many times is enough? and then who controls the narrative? discussion goes out of the window.

Piers Morgan is a tabloid bell whiff.. we know what to expect.
 
Alzi said:
Corbyn is the one who chose to go on his show.
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Yes, but if the same shows get the same right wing people on all the time with no counter argument, those viewers who watch his shows will never see an alternative view, they'll only see the same rhetoric from people like Farage and Hopkins.
 
GibbosEmpire said:
Yes, but if the same shows get the same right wing people on all the time with no counter argument, those viewers who watch his shows will never see an alternative view, they'll only see the same rhetoric from people like Farage and Hopkins.
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I'm not sure the type of people who Morgan usually has on as I wouldn't watch anything he hosts. Surely there was better platforms for Corbyn to appear on though if he wanted reasoned debate and civil discourse.

It just looked like two big toddlers having a strop to me.
 
newyddion said:
How many times is enough? and then who controls the narrative? discussion goes out of the window.

Piers Morgan is a tabloid bell whiff.. we know what to expect.
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Starting off every interview with "do you condemn Hamas" frames the narrative from that point on.
Its designed to put the focus on those being oppressed, as if it was their fault - not the Israelis, who are bombing hospitals, schools, refugee camps, murdering children and babies and fed arms and tactical support by the "West", including the UK.
 
Alzi said:
I'm not sure the type of people who Morgan usually has on as I wouldn't watch anything he hosts. Surely there was better platforms for Corbyn to appear on though if he wanted reasoned debate and civil discourse.

It just looked like two big toddlers having a strop to me.
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Corbyn always goes on novara media, politics joe etc, which has the same left wing people watching it like me, what's the point of that if there's no alternative view on Morgans show. Morgan has always been about shutting down the conversation, asking triggering questions to the person, always maintaining the same rhetoric that right wing folk want to hear. I'm not saying anyone should go on his show, but right wing media in general needs to have a counter argument.
 
r00fie1 said:
Starting off every interview with "do you condemn Hamas" frames the narrative from that point on.
Its designed to put the focus on those being oppressed, as if it was their fault - not the Israelis, who are bombing hospitals, schools, refugee camps, murdering children and babies and fed arms and tactical support by the "West", including the UK.
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No I think it was legitimate to begin with the atrocities committed by terrorists against civilians in the most barbaric way.

In the words of one journalist who had seen the video shot from the Hamas cameras the thing that shocked him was the absolute glee with which the killing took place.

Many will have heard the recording of the terrorist who rang his parents telling them he was using the phone of the women he had killed and bragging that he had killed 10 and was a hero.

These are not the actions of the oppressed - the Palestinians - but a terrorist organisation.

It is legitimate to criticise of the action of the Israelis both before this incident and subsequently but don't put Hamas on the same footing as the Palestinians.
 
Millbrook said:
No I think it was legitimate to begin with the atrocities committed by terrorists against civilians in the most barbaric way.

In the words of one journalist who had seen the video shot from the Hamas cameras the thing that shocked him was the absolute glee with which the killing took place.

Many will have heard the recording of the terrorist who rang his parents telling them he was using the phone of the women he had killed and bragging that he had killed 10 and was a hero.

These are not the actions of the oppressed - the Palestinians - but a terrorist organisation.

It is legitimate to criticise of the action of the Israelis both before this incident and subsequently but don't put Hamas on the same footing as the Palestinians.
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I agree with all of this. There is no justifying Hamas's actions. They are a terrorist organisation and will not make the lives of innocent Palestinians better or safe.
 
Millbrook said:
No I think it was legitimate to begin with the atrocities committed by terrorists against civilians in the most barbaric way.

In the words of one journalist who had seen the video shot from the Hamas cameras the thing that shocked him was the absolute glee with which the killing took place.

Many will have heard the recording of the terrorist who rang his parents telling them he was using the phone of the women he had killed and bragging that he had killed 10 and was a hero.

These are not the actions of the oppressed - the Palestinians - but a terrorist organisation.

It is legitimate to criticise of the action of the Israelis both before this incident and subsequently but don't put Hamas on the same footing as the Palestinians.
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I concur with you sentiments.
Do you condemn the attrocities, murder, torture and collective punishment in the Gaza concentration camp and the West Bank by Israeli Terrorists?
 
Alzi said:
I agree with all of this. There is no justifying Hamas's actions. They are a terrorist organisation and will not make the lives of innocent Palestinians better or safe.
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How is mass murder by Israel making the lives of innocent Palestinians safer?
 
r00fie1 said:
How is mass murder by Israel making the lives of innocent Palestinians safer?
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I didn't say it was.

I've said in my opinion Hamas are a terrorist organisation and their methods cannot be justified. This isn't about picking sides.
 
Alzi said:
I didn't say it was.

I've said in my opinion Hamas are a terrorist organisation and their methods cannot be justified. This isn't about picking sides.
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Haven't the right wing press won if you're doing exactly what they want which is criticising Corbyn for being a weak public speaker rather than focus on what's happening in Gaza?
 
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