Red Faction - walking out on 30th minute

BoroMad87 said:
What is a realistic acceptable price for people?

£510 over 23 games is £22.17 per game with a free pint.

Call a pint £4.50 and give fans the option to forgive £4.50 × 23= £103.5.

£510 - £103.5 = £406.5

£406.5 over 23 games = £17.67 without a pint is this acceptable and is it worth putting this to the Club first instead of a mass walk during a game which could have an effect on the players who are not to blame ?

And with the above in mind and as inflation rises, so wages, costs of running the stadium and club etc, how would an increase be undertaking to keep the fanbase content but also look after the interests of the club?
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Aren’t the players and their Agents to blame though? Before Bosman I would agree but now the players don’t live in the real world. They are on massive contracts, live in marvellous houses and drive flash cars. It was an excuse that it was a short career years ago but now a player in the Championship on £10,000 a week can earn more in two years than most supporters earn in 40 years of work. That’s without their commercial money. The reason for the season ticket increase was the increase in minimum wage. It’s a load of baloney isn’t it? Just say it’s because we are being ripped off because of players and agents wages and fees.
 
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So is this just the Plymouth game? Or will they decide to do this every home game for the rest of the season?

Chances of it making an impact are very slim, even more so if it’s just a one off.
 
sambaDTR said:
Aren’t the players and their Agents to blame though? Before Bosman I would agree but now the players don’t live in the real world. They are on massive contracts, live in marvellous houses and drive flash cars. It was an excuse that it was a short career years ago but now a player in the Championship on £10,000 a week can earn more in two years than most supporters earn in 40 years of work. That’s without their commercial money. The reason for the increase was the increase in minimum wage. It’s a load of baloney isn’t it?
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Am not sure, I don't really see the players as the issue the club have put the prices up and the money made by ticket sales on the grand scheme of things is not a great deal if the tickets average £510 on 33k seats that's around £1.6m a drop in the ocean really IMO although every little helps as they say.

For me the atmosphere from the stands transcends to the pitch so a walk up could affect some of the players, if the club have dismissed a meeting with the fans forum as suggested above then agree as fans on the correct form of protest and those who which to be involved by all means continue but only if the club will not engage on the matter as a walk out would be my last resort.
 
Merlin said:
The price rise is small - I can’t think of many things that don’t go up in price every year. It’s about the equivalent of an extra 57p a week. I’m not sure what fans expect the club to do to cover costs 🤷🏼‍♂️ - sell our best players and replace with worse one perhaps ? All so you have that extra 57p a week to splash around ?
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"Sell our best players and replace with worse one, perhaps” — some would argue that's already happened this season.
That's without 57p per week.
It's not that simple. Ask the families who are expected to pay a fortune for kids or tell that to the 14 / 15-year-old school kids who want to sit together in the Family stand, but can't: because they need to be with an “adult”.
 
I’m right behind RF and anyone who walks out on this. Those who say ‘it’s only £30’ or ‘this won’t achieve anything’ are either too thick to understand why they’re doing it, or are just plain ignorant.

To have higher ST & higher walk-up prices than almost every other side in this league and some in the Premiership, for a side that hasn’t been anywhere near the premiership recently, in an area particularly hard-up and in times of austerity is absolute indefensible.

If you’re alright and you’ve renewed, great 👍 chuffed for you. But there will be thousands who now can’t afford it. The riverside will be worse as a result.
 
sambaDTR said:
Aren’t the players and their Agents to blame though? Before Bosman I would agree but now the players don’t live in the real world. They are on massive contracts, live in marvellous houses and drive flash cars. It was an excuse that it was a short career years ago but now a player in the Championship on £10,000 a week can earn more in two years than most supporters earn in 40 years of work. That’s without their commercial money. The reason for the season ticket increase was the increase in minimum wage. It’s a load of baloney isn’t it? Just say it’s because we are being ripped off because of players and agents wages and fees.
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It's like saying the cost of Hand Sanitizer has increased along with the cost of replaceable mop-heads. Blame the kids on the under-25s minimum wage - trying to serve behind counters with facilities 20 years out of date instead! They are clearly milking the club dry!
 
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Scrug said:
I’m right behind RF and anyone who walks out on this. Those who say ‘it’s only £30’ or ‘this won’t achieve anything’ are either too thick to understand why they’re doing it, or are just plain ignorant.

To have higher ST & higher walk-up prices than almost every other side in this league and some in the Premiership, for a side that hasn’t been anywhere near the premiership recently, in an area particularly hard-up and in times of austerity is absolute indefensible.

If you’re alright and you’ve renewed, great 👍 chuffed for you. But there will be thousands who now can’t afford it. The riverside will be worse as a result.
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I honestly don’t think it will achieve anything, there won’t be a rethink on prices, if that is what people are hoping, I agree the prices are too much for the standard and level of football and this maybe a final straw for some people and it could actually reduce revenue for the club but I don’t think there will be an about turn on it.
 
r00fie1 said:
It's like saying the cost of Hand Sanitizer has increased along with the cost of replaceable mop-heads. Blame the kids trying to serve behind counters with facilities 20 years out of date instead! They are clearly milking the club dry!
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Prices for produce is *****, I don't buy it. Just get the odd pint. Did I see a ground that has Greggs running the kiosks, let them pay the wages and lets stick to football.
 
BoroMad87 said:
Am not sure, I don't really see the players as the issue the club have put the prices up and the money made by ticket sales on the grand scheme of things is not a great deal if the tickets average £510 on 33k seats that's around £1.6m a drop in the ocean really IMO although every little helps as they say.

For me the atmosphere from the stands transcends to the pitch so a walk up could affect some of the players, if the club have dismissed a meeting with the fans forum as suggested above then agree as fans on the correct form of protest and those who which to be involved by all means continue but only if the club will not engage on the matter as a walk out would be my last resort.
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No disrespect to MDSA / Twelfth Man and all the other groups involved in the fans' forum over the years, but it appears to have become nothing more than a publicity stunt — a flannel to look like the club listens. I seriously don't believe they do — unless it makes more profits.
 
the_holgate_roof said:
I honestly don’t think it will achieve anything, there won’t be a rethink on prices, if that is what people are hoping, I agree the prices are too much for the standard and level of football and this maybe a final straw for some people and it could actually reduce revenue for the club but I don’t think there will be an about turn on it.
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It definitely won’t change anything on its own. But it’s a start.
 
r00fie1 said:
It's like saying the cost of Hand Sanitizer has increased along with the cost of replaceable mop-heads. Blame the kids on the under-25s minimum wage - trying to serve behind counters with facilities 20 years out of date instead! They are clearly milking the club dry!
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It wouldn’t be so bad if some of the money was invested in the stadium. It’s so dated now. There was talk of space heaters not so long back, but nothing ever happened. Then there was a wind turbine to generate electricity. All of these type of things get raised and we are told, usually via Rob, that the club is considering doing something, but nothing ever happens. The Riverside has become a dated, dirty and soulless place, with terrible facilities and next to no supporting infrastructure.

I posted this on the other thread, then realised that it wasn’t this thread 🤣
 
r00fie1 said:
No disrespect to MDSA / Twelfth Man and all the other groups involved in the fans' forum over the years, but it appears to have become nothing more than a publicity stunt — a flannel to look like the club listens. I seriously don't believe they do — unless it makes more profits.
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The club doesn’t make a profit.
 
uncle_rico said:
It wouldn’t be so bad if some of the money was invested in the stadium. It’s so dated now. There was talk of space heaters not so long back, but nothing ever happened. Then there was a wind turbine to generate electricity. All of these type of things get raised and we are told, usually via Rob, that the club is considering doing something, but nothing ever happens. The Riverside has become a dated, dirty and soulless place, with terrible facilities and next to no supporting infrastructure.

I posted this on the other thread, then realised that it wasn’t this thread 🤣
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Compared to Leicester's facilities, where beer is served in seconds and the space provided is more than comfortable - and the gents toilets are more than a garden shed, the Riverside needs some investment - its more than showing its age.
 
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