1998 Cup runners up medal

I imagine the big bucks is with the 2004 winners’ medals. I wonder if any of those have been sold.
 
That’s a pretty poor medal like for league cup runners up, I’ve had participation medals for soccer sensations party’s when I was a kid better than that.
 
Its not a snidey remark and certainly not meant to be. Collectibles and memorobillia is a minefield.

Hence the need for evidence of authencity. A lot of innocent people own fake materials, many don't even know.

For example - What percentage of Nazi memorobilia do you think is fake?
 
Redwurzel said:
Its not a snidey remark and certainly not meant to be. Collectibles and memorobillia is a minefield.

Hence the need for evidence of authencity. A lot of innocent people own fake materials, many don't even know.

For example - What percentage of Nazi memorobilia do you think is fake?
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No, with all due respect, you were being snidey.
 
Over 95% of Nazi stuff is fake particularly the very trendy stuff like Nazi Youth Daggers - OK football stuff it will be less but it gives some idea of the counterfeit/copy market for valuable items.

As other posters point out positive written evidence of authencity and past ownership is very important to most serious buyers and does affect value.

I was trying to be helpful.
 
Redwurzel said:
Over 95% of Nazi stuff is fake particularly the very trendy stuff like Nazi Youth Daggers - OK football stuff it will be less but it gives some idea of the counterfeit/copy market for valuable items.

As other posters point out positive written evidence of authencity and past ownership is very important to most serious buyers and does affect value.

I was trying to be helpful.
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So we've gone from a 1998 Boro cup runners up medal to Nazi war memorabilia? You're trying to tell me someone would go to the trouble of trying to make an exact replica of a 1998 Middlesbrough runners up medal? Not much financial gain in that compared to a Nazi Luftwaffe dagger. Lets start with the tooling costs to make a one off of the medal/enamel down to the exact stamp on the back. Then you'd have to make the box it comes in also - exactly down to every detail.

Its obvious its the real thing. The line up in 1998 was only 14 players plus Robbo as manager - its from one of them.
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Flood said:
So we've gone from a 1998 Boro cup runners up medal to Nazi war memorabilia? You're trying to tell me someone would go to the trouble of trying to make an exact replica of a 1998 Middlesbrough runners up medal? Not much financial gain in that compared to a Nazi Luftwaffe dagger. Lets start with the tooling costs to make a one off of the medal/enamel down to the exact stamp on the back. Then you'd have to make the box it comes in also - exactly down to every detail.

Its obvious its the real thing. The line up in 1998 was only 14 players plus Robbo as manager - its from one of them.
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I always forget it went to extra time.
 
I’d say Merson Townsend or Gazza.


They’ll have just left their rental house with a load of stuff there when they moved on, and the house clearance people may have taken a few things to a charity shop.
 
AytonMews said:
I’d say Merson Townsend or Gazza.


They’ll have just left their rental house with a load of stuff there when they moved on, and the house clearance people may have taken a few things to a charity shop.
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Would explain why Rav's medals turned up in a job lot with a load of lightbulbs.
 
Flood - You are getting too touchy I didn't write that anything specific had been copied, just that people and businesses have been known to copy items of value and that authenticity evidence is important and adds value. If only 14 medals are produced for a fairly important Cup Final that makes those 14 medals very rare and thus very valuable. I would imagine cup final blanks can be produced and modified by the same manufacturer as the originals (I stress in theory). It is possible to buy copies of cup final medals in general on E bay.

Anyway good luck to your and your brother with your sale.
 
Redwurzel said:
Flood - You are getting too touchy I didn't write that anything specific had been copied, just that people and businesses have been known to copy items of value and that authenticity evidence is important and adds value. If only 14 medals are produced for a fairly important Cup Final that makes those 14 medals very rare and thus very valuable. I would imagine cup final blanks can be produced and modified by the same manufacturer as the originals (I stress in theory). It is possible to buy copies of cup final medals in general on E bay.

Anyway good luck to your and your brother with your sale.
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Fair enough, I just thought the compaison to war memorobilia (multi million pound industry) to be a bit of a stretch. As I said, he got it in good faith, checks out against others we've looked at and must have come from a collector or player. Only shame is, I'd hang onto it but he wants to sell it.
 
Flood said:
Fair enough, I just thought the compaison to war memorobilia (multi million pound industry) to be a bit of a stretch. As I said, he got it in good faith, checks out against others we've looked at and must have come from a collector or player. Only shame is, I'd hang onto it but he wants to sell it.
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Not worth that much really in the grand scheme of things.
I’d say where it is now is the sweet spot. I would be very surprised if it reached over £500
 
It's almost definitely real and if I had to guess i'd say it's Mersons.

Wouldn't say it's worth much though, maybe £200
 
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