344 covid deaths today

BoroFur

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"Today’s death figures include a backlog of hospital deaths reported overnight by NHS England covering the period 1st⁠–4th January."

7 day average is awful though, circa 170.
 

jam69

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Up to 50,000 people a year in the UK used to die from flu in the 1990s, but there was no daily updates on prime time TV.

Also 18,000 people die every day in the UK - 170 is a tragedy but its less than 1% of total deaths. Of that 170 - only two third died primarily due to Covid.
Up to 50,000 people a year die from flu in the UK.
You got a link for that figure it's nowhere near that
 

A

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Expected flu deaths outside of covid are usually predicted at anywhere between 20k and 40k per year nationally
 

Zoophonic

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3.7m people reported as now have the virus. How many have it who haven't tested? Yes serious given hospital admissions have increased up 60%. The figures speak for themselves.
 

Chris_Boro

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Up to 50,000 people a year in the UK used to die from flu in the 1990s, but there was no daily updates on prime time TV.

Also 18,000 people die every day in the UK - 170 is a tragedy but its less than 1% of total deaths. Of that 170 - only two third died primarily due to Covid.

Flu is not pneumonia and you've conflated the two.

Pneumonia can be caused by many things including covid. 18000 differing reasons for a death is not comparable to a virus that is infecting hundreds of thousands of people per day and is a very poor taste defection.

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Also, the majority of deaths involving influenza and pneumonia are comorbidities.
 
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Redwurzel

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I did write in the 1990s - most posters on here are quoting very recent years.

The flu vaccine has reduced deaths since the 1990s and precautions against Covid has reduced flu significantly in the last 2 years.

Flu in the past has been a very big killer. My mum said she thought she was dying in 1957 when she was only 21 with Asian Flu - she was bed ridden for nearly 3 weeks and previously extremely fit and healthy. Her doctor visited her at home with a face mask on. There would be stories a lot of winters about flu epidemics and hospitals filling up with seriously ill, but the World carried on. Some might say immune to the deaths.
 

Teesside96

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Up to 50,000 people a year in the UK used to die from flu in the 1990s, but there was no daily updates on prime time TV.

Also 18,000 people die every day in the UK - 170 is a tragedy but its less than 1% of total deaths. Of that 170 - only two third died primarily due to Covid.
18,000 a day where did you get that from?
That’s 10% of the population every year
 

jeff_potato

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Average UK death rate is approx 1400 per day.

Being an average, though, this was usually higher in reality during traditional flu/pneumonia season. (I think it was just over 2000 per day during Jan 2018)
 

Warwickboro

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Some people really seem towant lockdowns as if they are risk free. This thread is purely another one wanting yet more lockdowns, this virus is here to stay forever. It is now far less dangerous than one year ago, and the rewards for not locking down out way the risks as a balance of the whole society. Now some will say "tell that to the families of those that have lost loved ones and that will always be a sound argument. But i don't want to (and nor should anyone else have to )prepare my kids for winter lockdowns during a fuel crisis every single winter. We have to at least try to control this without using non pharmaceutical interventions. The alternative is to give up on future life chances and just become a giant public health state.
 

Pak_Doo_Ik

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Not wishing to pour fuel on the fire as I don't know, but what effect have the restrictions that the other home nations imposed had on the virus and their figures?
 
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