Aaron Connolly

Population figure was from this website.

Brighton Population 2023

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I admit that 621k figure does looks too big, but a lot of East Sussex by population is the Brighton area. Hastings area felt like a mid size town, Eastbourne a bit bigger but Lewes was a smallish country town.

Ref roads - There are few lengths of dual carriageways in East Sussex, its surprisingly rural. I suspect it would be very difficult to build a major road. The A21 in Sussex (not Kent) was more like the Guisborough the Whitby road and passed through the middle of Lamberhurst and Robertbridge, quaint one street country towns/villages.

When I visited in the 1980s Brighton & Hove seemed bigger than say Middlesbrough & Stockton. Brighton felt like a City and Capital for East Sussex, also had 2 Universities. It certainly was not 130,000 people (third of the size of Teesside) and since then Brighton has grown quite a bit and Teesside has not.
 
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Unless we have an option to buy it’s really not a good deal for the club. Give a premier league player game time to turn his career around then go back to his club at the end of the year? Hardly benefitting us unless he comes in and scored 10 this season
 
Redwurzel said:
Population figure was from this website.

Brighton Population 2023

worldpopulationreview.com

I admit that 621k figure does looks too big, but a lot of East Sussex by population is the Brighton area. Hastings area felt like a mid size town, Eastbourne a bit bigger but Lewes was a smallish country town.

Ref roads - There are few lengths of dual carriageways in East Sussex, its surprisingly rural. I suspect it would be very difficult to build a major road. The A21 in Sussex (not Kent) was more like the Guisborough the Whitby road and passed through the middle of Lamberhurst and Robertbridge, quaint one street country towns/villages.

When I visited in the 1980s Brighton & Hove seemed bigger than say Middlesbrough & Stockton. Brighton felt like a City and Capital for East Sussex, also had 2 Universities. It certainly was not 130,000 people (third of the size of Teesside) and since then Brighton has grown quite a bit and Teesside has not.
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That site is full of crap.

There's a graph with crazy figures supposedly representing "Brighton Urban Area" suggesting a population of 621k but doesn't define what the urban area is.

Then further down:

City Size and Population Density​

The city covers a total surface area of 82.79 square kilometers. With a population near 280,000 by 2018, the population density comes to nearly 3,480 people living per square kilometer.

Then to confound matters even further, towards the end of the page under Other Cities in the United Kingdom it says:

Middlesbrough388,969

Complete bollox 😁

As for the road links :

I remember before the A23 became the M23 with a fork in the road at Handcross. Getting to Brighton from London was like travelling across East Anglia to Norwich or Ipswich.

B&H is linear along the coast so its size can be deceptive. The artuary roads in Brighton are terrible and its really difficult getting across town, East to West. I think at some points there maybe only two roads parallel (Inc the A27), so if there's roadworks or an accident you'd be bloxed.

When I last lived there, there was talk of having to close the main road along the front, to repair the crumbling ground in front and under the Brighton Centre. I think the closure would be measured in years rather than months.

It's probably equivalent to Victoria Bridge in Stockton and Newport bridge being closed for years leaving us the Tranny and A19 flyover to get between North and South Tees.
 
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Tallywacker said:
Looks like a bad apple given the feedback from Brighton fans? Signing for Boro at 21 years old will allow him to “focus on his football” Party started lad, fill your boots 😂
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I’ve heard basically the same — had some sort of bust up with one or two apparently so he’s being offloaded and no takers in the Prem— sounds like a right “Billy”.

Jokes aside I actually thought he was very alert as a player and although he doesn’t possess blinding speed, he’s very tenacious and can score from inside/outside the box.
 
Cogeur_le_Conq said:
I was going to mention this on reply to @S7DiscoDown 's photo above.

Swapping Burgess Hill for Yarm is a move up in class. I'm qualified to know, having actually lived in both areas.

Adriana and Christian were pure class and had no complaints about swapping Monaco for Teesside. In fact the world's most attractive supermodel (IMHO) pished all over the Southern press trying to slag the area, when she said it's beautiful and the people are friendly and that she was brought up amongst industry in Slovakia so it's very much like home.

As it's Xmas I'll share my private Adriana 2000 summer collection with you all...
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I still think it’s so funny, and a beautiful metaphor for the crazy glamour of our early 2000s golden era, that we had one of the world’s top supermodels modelling our dodgy third kit.
 
Cogeur_le_Conq said:
Not sure where you're getting 612k from?

I was comparing apples with apples. The conurbation of Teesside v the conurbation of Brighton & Hove. Not Middlesbrough v Brighton or East Sussex v County Durham/North Yorkshire.

The population of Brighton & Hove is only 290,395 with an area of 87.54 km².

Teesside has a population of 376,633 in an area of 794.95 km² (Tees Valley area not Teesside).

This is a valid argument for having a Unitary Authority like the City of Brighton & Hove.

Not a load of disparate authorities vying against each other like, Middlesbrough, Stockton and Redcar and Cleveland.

In fact the whole of the county of East Sussex which encompasses all of B&H, Lewes, Eastbourne and Hastings is only 844,985.
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Just saved me some time there C le C.
 
Redwurzel said:
Population figure was from this website.

Brighton Population 2023

worldpopulationreview.com

I admit that 621k figure does looks too big, but a lot of East Sussex by population is the Brighton area. Hastings area felt like a mid size town, Eastbourne a bit bigger but Lewes was a smallish country town.

Ref roads - There are few lengths of dual carriageways in East Sussex, its surprisingly rural. I suspect it would be very difficult to build a major road. The A21 in Sussex (not Kent) was more like the Guisborough the Whitby road and passed through the middle of Lamberhurst and Robertbridge, quaint one street country towns/villages.

When I visited in the 1980s Brighton & Hove seemed bigger than say Middlesbrough & Stockton. Brighton felt like a City and Capital for East Sussex, also had 2 Universities. It certainly was not 130,000 people (third of the size of Teesside) and since then Brighton has grown quite a bit and Teesside has not.
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Middlesbrough, Stockton and Redcar & Cleveland are 475k people.
Add Darlington and Hartlepool and it is 675,914.
It is as valid (or as daft) adding Darlo and Pools to Teesside, as including 110k Worthing in Brighton which is 12 miles away, let alone 105k Eastbourne to Brighton which is 24 miles away.
Hastings is 36 miles from Brighton.

That world population website takes a random view of an "urban area" and is inconsistent.
 
Hopefully Boro have a clause to end the loan early if needs be (and Brighton are still paying the majority of his wages). If so then it's really low risk as they can just send him packing if he turns out to be a real-life Jamie Tartt.
 
indeedido said:
Middlesbrough, Stockton and Redcar & Cleveland are 475k people.
Add Darlington and Hartlepool and it is 675,914.
It is as valid (or as daft) adding Darlo and Pools to Teesside, as including 110k Worthing in Brighton which is 12 miles away, let alone 105k Eastbourne to Brighton which is 24 miles away.
Hastings is 36 miles from Brighton.

That world population website takes a random view of an "urban area" and is inconsistent.
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Cheers Indeedido,

You saved me from going any deeper. You've done the graft listing the constituent parts of both the Teesside and B&H conurbations. Its really difficult trying to find accurate figures other than Wiki, which I trust as a reputable source more than most.

Am I right in thinking that the 2021 UK census results when they become available, will be the first since the 1911 census?

So using your data above, my apples v apples comparison should be:

Boro, Stockton and R&C - 475k
B&H - 280k

Maybe I was basing my original comparison using 1980's figures, before half of Teesside got on their 'Norman Tebbit" bikes and spread across the globe. Brighton's population was swelled during the 80's by Dole tourists from Northern towns and Scotland, living on housing benefit before having to move to a new authority every three months. Lots of seaside towns filled their vacant hotels with dolies off season.

Teesside has been divided by the boundaries commission to its detriment. I've never understood why so much of Middlesbrough is in R&C and not Middlesbrough.

I really like B&H, but my next move will be back to the place of my birth. Now that I'm working from home it's a no brainer choosing between Teesside and Oxfordshire/France/B&H or London.

I think more and more disparate highly skilled Teesside prodigal son's will be planning the same.

I just hope I can buy a house before they start pushing the house prices up.

I've probably spent two thirds of my 60 years as a nomad.

I'm coming home... GET IN!
 
goalscrounger said:
Hopefully Boro have a clause to end the loan early if needs be (and Brighton are still paying the majority of his wages). If so then it's really low risk as they can just send him packing if he turns out to be a real-life Jamie Tartt.
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Ted Lasso turned Jamie Tartt into a team player
 
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