Akpom - Sheff U

RenzoRosso said:
If he starts the first game for his new team in a week or so will you still believe the injury line?
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Yeah, because you'd have to be very daft to think that it would benefit any party to prevent him training for 2 months just in case we're selling him.

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Chuba Akpom says he'd 'love' to stay at Middlesbrough & provides upbeat injury update

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Akpom on his injury:
"I’ve had some setbacks. I picked up the injury against Coventry, last game, came back and then did something again.

"It’s nothing major though and I’m slowly getting there. I’m back on the grass and running and doing individual ball work, so it’s good progress. I don’t want to put a timeframe on it, I just go on how I feel really.

"You don’t want to rush it and get re-injured. So I take it day-by-day, but I can say I’m in a good position right now.

“I’ve never had a pre-season where I’ve been injured. This is probably the first time. Obviously last year I didn’t play much, just 30 minutes against Marseille. But then I did have the training to back that up. This year I’ve been injured the whole time obviously, but I know that I can get back to my top form. I just need a bit of time but I’ll get there.

"Pre-season is important for any player, because it does stand you in good stead fitness-wise for the whole season. But it is what it is. I haven’t had the time to be with the team during pre-season. But, on a positive note, I’ve been in the gym trying to strengthen my knee and my body.

"I’ve certainly not just been sitting on my backside doing nothing. I’ve been working hard every day on the rehab side at the training ground."
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You'd have to be even dafter to still believe it when the player in question is discussing in depth how the injury has negatively impacted his summer.
Would have absolutely no benefit to anybody to make up an injury and prevent him training, and certainly wouldn't help with selling him if that was what the club wanted.
 
Duffman said:
Absolutely this - £8m is the difference between survival and disaster for a club like MFC. We have to bring in a big sale every season to survive - fully expect Paddy McNair will also go for for circa £3.5 to £4 million to get the £12million balancing figure that also allows a couple of loans to come in. We are on a financial tightrope that Gibson’s balances every year. That’s why failing to go up last season was such a disaster.
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Well this season he is gonna be in for armageddon if failing to go up last year was such a disaster. A couple of loanees ain't gonna plug the gap of the squad we had last season i’m afraid.

If that were truly how bad it is then Gibson will only have himself to blame for past mistakes and he will start to haemorrhage ticket sales year on year, I don’t see it that way as yet. The increased sales this season was on the back of expectation from last year. Regression will also likely see the departure of Carrick, he won’t want to hang around a team with little hope of success. I hope Carrick has the abiliteh to turn water into wine but Gibson has a lot hanging on ensuring we move forwards not back, so I hope he will see that £8M for Akpomb is ridiculous even with a year on his contract. It is cheaper to pay him the additional wages and keep him under contract and sell next season as his value will not be any less than now and hopefully greater with a fair season for him if not the team.
 
uncle_rico said:
Exactly, doesn't mean we have to accept it.
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In what world are those players you listed worth any more than what we sold them for?

Gibson had played on season of top flight football and it was a complete disaster, not necessarily because of him but he was part of an absolutely sh*te season. That’s the only top-level experience between the three of them. £15m for Gibson.

Tav was class for us but wanted to go. You cannot keep an unhappy player. And he’d come through and served us well. You have to let them leave. Was it £10m for him? A youth team graduate with no top flight or international experience… how much do you think he should’ve been commanding?

And Spence, a kid picked up for nothing and sold for £10m allegedly rising to £20m depending on future success, after one good season for Forest and half a good season for us, is insanely good business for Boro. It’s exactly what we should be doing.

£35m minimum for those three graduates of the club’s youth set-up is excellent work IMO. How many other Championship clubs are doing that sort of business on a consistent basis?
 
coluka said:
Well this season he is gonna be in for armageddon if failing to go up last year was such a disaster. A couple of loanees ain't gonna plug the gap of the squad we had last season i’m afraid.

If that were truly how bad it is then Gibson will only have himself to blame for past mistakes and he will start to haemorrhage ticket sales year on year, I don’t see it that way as yet. The increased sales this season was on the back of expectation from last year. Regression will also likely see the departure of Carrick, he won’t want to hang around a team with little hope of success. I hope Carrick has the abiliteh to turn water into wine but Gibson has a lot hanging on ensuring we move forwards not back, so I hope he will see that £8M for Akpomb is ridiculous even with a year on his contract. It is cheaper to pay him the additional wages and keep him under contract and sell next season as his value will not be any less than now and hopefully greater with a fair season for him if not the team.
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We’re haemorrhaging ticket sales and losing Carrick now? Jesus wept! 😀
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
In what world are those players you listed worth any more than what we sold them for?

Gibson had played on season of top flight football and it was a complete disaster, not necessarily because of him but he was part of an absolutely sh*te season. That’s the only top-level experience between the three of them. £15m for Gibson.

Tav was class for us but wanted to go. You cannot keep an unhappy player. And he’d come through and served us well. You have to let them leave. Was it £10m for him? A youth team graduate with no top flight or international experience… how much do you think he should’ve been commanding?

And Spence, a kid picked up for nothing and sold for £10m allegedly rising to £20m depending on future success, after one good season for Forest and half a good season for us, is insanely good business for Boro. It’s exactly what we should be doing.

£35m minimum for those three graduates of the club’s youth set-up is excellent work IMO. How many other Championship clubs are doing that sort of business on a consistent basis?
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The world where Bristol City are about to get £25m+ for a player who hasn't even played for England under 21's.

There's no doubting we needed the money, and we need the money now, where we likely accept £8m for a player who was top scorer and championship player of the year last season, despite him saying just yesterday that he wants to stay.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
We’re haemorrhaging ticket sales and losing Carrick now? Jesus wept! 😀
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Where did i say were, stop twisting my words, you really have lost the plot lately, you used to be reasonable, but for some reason you are being silly. The inference was if we don’t at least tread water we will loose SC sales year on year if we go backwards, thats how success and failure works, you think Carrick would hang around if not supported to bring success?
 
TeaCider said:
Yeah, because you'd have to be very daft to think that it would benefit any party to prevent him training for 2 months just in case we're selling him.

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Chuba Akpom says he'd 'love' to stay at Middlesbrough & provides upbeat injury update

Chuba Akpom says he'd love to stay at Middlesbrough amid ongoing contract uncertainty and has provided a positive injury update
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Akpom on his injury:


You'd have to be even dafter to still believe it when the player in question is discussing in depth how the injury has negatively impacted his summer.
Would have absolutely no benefit to anybody to make up an injury and prevent him training, and certainly wouldn't help with selling him if that was what the club wanted.
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It’s actually very sensible and I’m glad the club adopt this approach - it’s what bigger clubs do and have done for a long time. Reputations are left intact, no one downs tools and refuses to play and no one loses face if the outcome doesn’t suit. It makes total sense for the boro and the player. If he ends up staying there’s no damage to rep or relationship with fans or club - he had an injury and wanted to stay all along, new deal signed nothing to see here - and if he leaves we don’t have to go through weeks of him refusing to play and dirty laundry being aired in public with our financial weakness or perceived weakness for all to see. I fully expect this is the side of Kieran Scott’s job we don’t really get to appreciate.
 
uncle_rico said:
The world where Bristol City are about to get £25m+ for a player who hasn't even played for England under 21's.

There's no doubting we needed the money, and we need the money now, where we likely accept £8m for a player who was top scorer and championship player of the year last season, despite him saying just yesterday that he wants to stay.
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So what do you do if you tell Tav that you can’t move if nobody pays £25m? And then nobody does. Then he winds down his contract and leaves for nothing and you have rafts of people calling you a shambles because you’ve lost “£25m player” for nothing.

Alex Scott, is that the player? If Bristol City can get someone to pay that much for him then good luck to them. Unless someone pays it, he’s not worth it.

And going back to Tav, Flynn Downes is probably a better comparison. A 23 year-old midfielder when he moved up. For £12m.
 
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RenzoRosso said:
It’s actually very sensible and I’m glad the club adopt this approach - it’s what bigger clubs do and have done for a long time. Reputations are left intact, no one downs tools and refuses to play and no one loses face if the outcome doesn’t suit. It makes total sense for the boro and the player. If he ends up staying there’s no damage to rep or relationship with fans or club - he had an injury and wanted to stay all along, new deal signed nothing to see here - and if he leaves we don’t have to go through weeks of him refusing to play and dirty laundry being aired in public with our financial weakness or perceived weakness for all to see. I fully expect this is the side of Kieran Scott’s job we don’t really get to appreciate.
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Nah, it's not what they do during pre-season at all.

It's what they do during the season when a player downs tools and they have to explain why he's suddenly not available.
 
coluka said:
Where did i say were, stop twisting my words, you really have lost the plot lately, you used to be reasonable, but for some reason you are being silly. The inference was if we don’t at least tread water we will loose SC sales year on year if we go backwards, thats how success and failure works, you think Carrick would hang around if not supported to bring success?
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You’re saying I’ve lost the plot when you were taking about ticket sales haemorrhaging and Carrick being unhappy… you said yesterday we needed to replace 49 goals. Talking like Akpom has left. It’s weird.

It’s all if this, if that, if this is as sh*t as I suspect it will be…

You know what I feel, I feel it’s just pessimistic as f*ck. Sorry for swearing mate but I’m tired of this pessimism. The season hasn’t even started yet. Why can’t it be wow what if we go up, what if this lad hits the ground running we could make £15m to reinvest, if Carrick did this with Akpom and Hackney and Lenihan then what can he do with Coburn, Rodgers, Gilbert, Barlaser? Why can’t it be wow, I hope we have a cup run this year or I can’t wait to see how Silvera does or if another young lad can step up like Hackney did.

It’s been pessimism all week. And people are just ignoring everything Akpom and Carrick have said and just posting these absolute fantasies about fees and wages and bids and disasters and shambles and all the rest of it.

Can we not just look ahead to Millwall? We’ve got a real coach here, with a fair few really good players to enjoy. We’ve got good prospects.

Only my opinion of course. But some of the stuff I’ve seen on here this week, it’s just mad. No offence but I just think it’s mad.
 
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£8m Sheffield United
£9m Everton
£10m Fulham
£11m Crystal Palace
£12m West Ham

Chuba wants to stay at the boro on the money he is on right now.. UTB!!
 
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