Andy Burnham

I worked in the department of health when he was SofS there and while I never met him personally, I worked very closely with his private office. He was very popular and well liked by his staff. Always a good sign.

Think he's genuinely a good, decent bloke who is also very competent and nobody's fool.

It'd be a breath of fresh air having someone like that in charge.
 
Was it just bad timing why he didn’t get elected leader in 2010 & 2015, always seems odd that most people you talk to think he’d make a good leader of the party and yet he isn’t???
 
Steer said:
He comes across well. I always thought that he was headed to become leader of the Labour party, and hence potential PM. Then he side stepped and became Manchester mayor - which is a job that he seems to do well at.
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I think he does a very good job......but whenever he does anything should read some of the responses on local social media ........🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
 
festa5 said:
I worked in the department of health when he was SofS there and while I never met him personally, I worked very closely with his private office. He was very popular and well liked by his staff. Always a good sign.

Think he's genuinely a good, decent bloke who is also very competent and nobody's fool.

It'd be a breath of fresh air having someone like that in charge.
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And that's why he will probably never be in charge. He questions the establishment too much and stands up to them - can't have that can we? 🤬🤬
 
It's easy to forget how much large swathes of this country was fu ck ed around by the Government's spectacular mismanagement of a pandemic.

The contradictions, the statements put out and then retracted, the lifting of restrictions every time Johnson fancied a week away or had a family event to attend, the restrictions put in place at short notice without any of the relevant bodies being given any information.

Not being able to spend Christmas with my family in 2020 because Eat Out to Help Out basically relit the fires of infection during the autumn months.

All they did was sow division (fair enough, their strong point), and create the space for conspiracy theorists and facebook scientists to fill the gaps.

I'll never forget the rage I felt watching the news when Andy Burnham found out Manchester was being put back into Tier 3 via text while he was addressing the media. Even if that was orchestrated by his team for him to be live on TV at that point it was a hell of an impact. Ordinary people getting ***ed about by chinless Eton pony shaggers:

 
h_m_boro said:
And that's why he will probably never be in charge. He questions the establishment too much and stands up to them - can't have that can we? 🤬🤬
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Well I think we know the media would give him a much harder time than Starmer. However he's also about 100 times more charismatic than Starmer (low bar) and far more politically astute than Corbyn.

If he'd stayed as an MP I think he could easily have beaten Starmer to the leadership and even with the likes of the daily heil bashing him, I suspect he'd be polling just as well, if not better right now.

I also think he might well have won one of the general elections Corbyn lost.

You never know. Still young for a politician. I'm sure he'll return to parliament at some point, probably at least as a minister (🤞).
 
festa5 said:
Well I think we know the media would give him a much harder time than Starmer. However he's also about 100 times more charismatic than Starmer (low bar) and far more politically astute than Corbyn.

If he'd stayed as an MP I think he could easily have beaten Starmer to the leadership and even with the likes of the daily heil bashing him, I suspect he'd be polling just as well, if not better right now.

I also think he might well have won one of the general elections Corbyn lost.

You never know. Still young for a politician. I'm sure he'll return to parliament at some point, probably at least as a minister (🤞).
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Yeah, fair points.

My only issue would be he'd be "accepted" as a leader of the opposition, similar to Corbyn, but when it started to look like he's becoming a credible threat the powers that be and RWM would go into overdrive to ruin him. Worked an absolute treat with Corbyn, expect something very similar.

In an ideal world, Starmer needs to be toppled from within after becoming PM and sorting the media (Leveson II on steroids). Then Burnham, after being parachuted into an Uber safe Labour seat wins the leadership battle and becomes PM..........I know, I know 🙄🙄
 
He has been asked a few times during interviews if he would consider it and he has never said no from what I recall. Would be a great move for all if it happened. Particularly as I can't see any natural successor for SKS should he bomb before or after the GE. Nandy maybe or Streeting but while both would appear ok for leading domestic matters I am not convinced either would command enough respect on the international stage.
 
Steer said:
He comes across well. I always thought that he was headed to become leader of the Labour party, and hence potential PM. Then he side stepped and became Manchester mayor - which is a job that he seems to do well at.
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He didn't sidestep; he lost in 2015 and then flounced. He is a lightweight gobshyte.
 
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