But if you know one of the two potential outcomes is disastrous, why would you risk it?
Why not just do your job and take responsibility for explaining to your constituents what your decision is based on?
You post some really good, insightful stuff at times Lefty and then you let yourself down with this sort of rubbish.
Corbyn isn't an antisemite. There's no question about that.
The Labour party didn't have an antisemitism problem*. Starmer inherited nothing and stamped nothing out. The media (and other commentators) just stopped banging that particular drum once it had served its purpose.
It snowballed because it was pushed relentlessly. For someone so incompetent it's funny that the only thing that could be found to stick was an intangible idea that ultimately had no foundation. It was a sham. It was impossible for Corbyn to stamp it out because it was presented with no evidence. There was nothing to stamp out.
But you know this.
*The Chakrabarti report, the Labour leaks, the Al Jazeera documentary and the EHRC report all show this
But it's not rubbish.
I remember at the time seeing an interview (not the Andrew Neill one) at the time which went more or less like this
Interviwer : Do you condemn anti-semitism in the Labour Party?
Corbyn : I am against all forms of racism
Interviewer : But I do you condemn antisemitism?
Corbyn : I condemn all forms or racism
Interviewer : But do you condemn antisemitism
Corbyn : As I say, I condemn all racism
Now, you Corbynites will look at that and go 'There you go, he's not just condemning antisemitism and proving he isn't antisemitic, he's going
even further and showing he's an even more decent guy than that!' Ta daa!
My missus saw it and said "Why didn't he just say 'Yes, I condemn antisemitism'?"
My mum said 'I know, it's weird. Why use that wording? I think he has something to hide.'
I looked at it and thought 'you bell end, you're supposed to shut the issue down, now you've actually done the opposite and increased suspicion!'
It was totally incompetent handling, that led to perceptions, that drove many liberals away. Incompetence. Not a leader. Couldn't avoid a bear trap that had a big flashing neon sign above it.
This discussion is pretty typical of how the rest of the country other than the blinkered Corbyn fan boys saw it.
There were polls that showed that only around a third of the public thought Corbyn was anti-semitic and the rest either didn't or weren't sure, but something like 3/4 (including about 70% of Labour voters) thought he'd handled the issue badly compared to less than 1 in 10 who thought he'd handled it well.
That is the problem that Starmer inherited. When he took over the public and the Jewish community had a perception that the Labour Party was antisemitic. Corbyn and his halfwit supporters, instead of shutting up, towing the line and allowing the issue to be seen to be dealt with ended up convincing the public that there was an problem, thus demonstrating once again that whatever the correct policies, whatever the technicalities, they were hopelessly out of their depth at some of the other important aspects of politics.
As for the 2019 election,
You post some really good, insightful stuff at times Lefty and then you let yourself down with this sort of rubbish.
The Liberals and SNP forced the early election. The SNP for good reason (from their point of view) and the Liberals because they were on a break from reality. Corbyn was left with zero choice but he wasn't outmanoeuvred by Johnson.
You have clearly forgotten, or never properly appreciated the situation at the time.
Johnson was floundering, he didn't outmaneouvre Corbyn, the opposition parties outmanoeuvred themselves through the sheer incompetence of the Leaders and their advisors. That is like only focussing on the final destination, but it was the journey that put us there.
jeez Rewurzel... you've had some absolute stinkers on this thread...
