Booing taking the knee is racist

Rob/FMTTM made it very clear way back in 2020.


The players are entitled to choose whether to take the knee or not.
The fans do not have a choice of booing or not. If they boo they are racist and are a total disgrace to their community and the greater community in this country.
Anyone that agrees with booing please leave this website you are not welcome here.

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I countered a young lad booing at Swansea - I said "are you a racist." He said, no "I don't agree with it."
I brought this up with the football club this week - and Twel12th man had the exact same experience at Swansea City game.
Looking to work with Boro around this again - for next season. But I would point you to the video attached from MFC Academy showing their Teesside Trailblazers. This is just the kind of work we need - engaging with kids. Education.
 
On Britt Assombalonga..

Britt’s Son “dad what did you do for racism”

BA “hahahaha, I stopped the boro players from taking the knee, quashing the debate stopping any opportunities for learning and discussion.. actually being quite counterproductive and opening the door to racist fans leading to their fans actually booing other teams for taking the knee”

BS “like Milwall”
BA “hahahahaha yeah, just like Milwall”

It’s the players choice I guess.. as a player I would be taking the knee on Saturday on the back of that from the fans last night.
 
Warwickboro said:
I agree that booing someone taking the knee is racism. But is a player refusing to take the kneee not also racism?
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In many cases I suspect the decision from (some) fans to boo and players to refuse to do it is a result of the same thing, fake news/conspiracy type bollox on social media.

A lot of our players were initially quite anti vaccine I think weren't they? Suggesting a lot of them are getting their "news", info and opinions from dubious sources.

Of course some fans are also just plain racist.
 
Warwickboro said:
I agree that booing someone taking the knee is racism. But is a player refusing to take the kneee not also racism?
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It could be seen as abstaining from political/societal discourse, I guess, it's a non-conformist act, as apposed to boing which is actively opposing. At the very least booing taking the knee is a sign of ignorance and a malleable mind, and that's me leaving a sliver of doubt for a small % of people that boo it, most will be racist.
 
BoroMart said:
It could be seen as abstaining from political/societal discourse, I guess, it's a non-conformist act, as apposed to boing which is actively opposing. At the very least booing taking the knee is a sign of ignorance and a malleable mind, and that's me leaving a sliver of doubt for a small % of people that boo it, most will be racist.
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I agree with that, the majority of people who boo it do so driven by possible ignorance, but most likely racism.

I also disagree with the view that its a political act - its not. The opposition to prejudice, whether its racism or anything else, is not a political act, unless you're a fascist I suppose!
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
I agree with that, the majority of people who boo it do so driven by possible ignorance, but most likely racism.

I also disagree with the view that its a political act - its not. The opposition to prejudice, whether its racism or anything else, is not a political act, unless you're a fascist I suppose!
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And I think that is the message we have to try and get across.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
I agree with that, the majority of people who boo it do so driven by possible ignorance, but most likely racism.

I also disagree with the view that its a political act - its not. The opposition to prejudice, whether its racism or anything else, is not a political act, unless you're a fascist I suppose!
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agreed, the only reason I put political was that some people seem to have been manipulated into thinking that kneeling is about 'socialism' or 'communism' or some other ism that they don't really understand and scares them. Of course, it isn't about any of those things, it's about racism.
 
There's a big difference between not agreeing with it and booing those that are doing it. I probably fall in the camp of thinking it is a meaningless gesture if it's all it is; like clapping the NHS or paper straws. There are important messages and battles to be won but if people think that those things alone are enough then they don't achieve anything. If you go out and boo while people are doing any of those things though then it must be because you believe the opposite of what that message is supposed to be. Booing isn't neutral.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
I agree with that, the majority of people who boo it do so driven by possible ignorance, but most likely racism.

I also disagree with the view that its a political act - its not. The opposition to prejudice, whether its racism or anything else, is not a political act, unless you're a fascist I suppose!
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Racism is caused by ignorance, we need to understand and inform our fans. - I think I was seen as being a racist for suggesting this previously.
 
Nano said:
There's a big difference between not agreeing with it and booing those that are doing it. I probably fall in the camp of thinking it is a meaningless gesture if it's all it is; like clapping the NHS or paper straws. There are important messages and battles to be won but if people think that those things alone are enough then they don't achieve anything. If you go out and boo while people are doing any of those things though then it must be because you believe the opposite of what that message is supposed to be. Booing isn't neutral.
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I mean if a gesture has a meaning behind it then it obviously is not meaningless. Is there any need for it? I think most people who haven’t experienced racism would like to think not.
 
BoroMart said:
agreed, the only reason I put political was that some people seem to have been manipulated into thinking that kneeling is about 'socialism' or 'communism' or some other ism that they don't really understand and scares them. Of course, it isn't about any of those things, it's about racism.
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It’s interesting to see how easily people have been duped into what socialism is and what it means. The NHS was built on a socialist idea, it works best when that is protected and it begins to fail when profit for private investors enters into that model. Public ally owned and public ally funded. Socialist.

With a right wing grip on our media, newspapers, television news ect.. the narrative has changed. Now it seems the best course of action is to sell off publicly owned assets to private individuals so that they may profit from charging the public more money to use something which the previously owned and had previously paid for!

Public money going into private hands to prop up failing companies, protect shareholders and pay over the odds for good and services.. that’s also ok according to those who profit from this . Privatising profit, socialising loses. Anyone who disagrees with is a terrorists or an anti-semite..

When do folks start booing politicians?
 
If I was a professional footballer I would take the knee regardless of what the Club policy was, it might be a small act to some but by taking that action I would be showing my disgust and intolerance of racism. It would not be a political statement but a personal one, one that would show my position and also my solidarity toward those who have suffered at the hands of the ignorant and misinformed.
 
newyddion said:
With a right wing grip on our media, newspapers, television news ect.. the narrative has changed. Now it seems the best course of action is to sell off publicly owned assets to private individuals so that they may profit from charging the public more money to use something which the previously owned and had previously paid for!
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This is a bit off topic, but that's one of the key things that irks me more than anything. Let's look at say The post service as an example.

- I work for decades and I pay my taxes. Those taxes were invested under socialist policies in The post Office (machinary, training, vehicles, etc. etc.), to give me (and everyone) an affordable service (60p first class).
- A Tory PM comes along and sells those assets that I've been paying for, to their friends, at a knock down price.
- The new owner of the postal service, now starts charging me inflated prices (60p risen to 95p for first class stamp), to use the services I already bought, and some shyster of a PM sold.
- Then the service quality reduces as the profiteers want their return.

The whole thing is a criminal shake down. People need to open their eyes and wise up to Tory privatisation policies. Moving tax revenue and assets purchased through tax to rich people is the M.O. of free market capitalism as is denigrating the concept of socialism and any 'by the people' movement.
 
newyddion said:
On Britt Assombalonga..

Britt’s Son “dad what did you do for racism”

BA “hahahaha, I stopped the boro players from taking the knee, quashing the debate stopping any opportunities for learning and discussion.. actually being quite counterproductive and opening the door to racist fans leading to their fans actually booing other teams for taking the knee”

BS “like Milwall”
BA “hahahahaha yeah, just like Milwall”

It’s the players choice I guess.. as a player I would be taking the knee on Saturday on the back of that from the fans last night.
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I’m not sure ridiculing a players response or decision not to take the knee is particularly helpful. The reasons for not taking are perfectly Valid.

Personally I would take the knee
 
GazC_MFC said:
I’m not sure ridiculing a players response or decision not to take the knee is particularly helpful. The reasons for not taking are perfectly Valid.

Personally I would take the knee
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that’s where we are right now.

Captain Britt?
 
GazC_MFC said:
I’m not sure ridiculing a players response or decision not to take the knee is particularly helpful. The reasons for not taking are perfectly Valid.

Personally I would take the knee
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It was a ridiculous post. I think taking the knee is a good thing but if a black player at our club, our captain believed that it was the right thing to do for us not to take the knee because he believes that it was a hollow gesture and not enough was being done then that's fine by me. If a white player had taken that decision for us then that's a totally different matter because as white people I don't believe it is our right to dictate that.

Not sure what goes on behind the scenes but I do wonder if things have been re-evaluated since Britt left, maybe speak to the current black players at the club about what they want to do and support them either way. That may well have happened though.
 
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