Booing taking the knee is racist

BoroMart said:
you need to be very careful using words like 'rediculous', some people on this board think that is heinous and worthy of personal abuse, amateur psychological appraisal and stalking your every post. :ROFLMAO:

I guess Britt squared that circle in his head, and has his own choice to make, and that's fine. But he's gone, I'm not sure as our captain he should have been dictating the club response, all the players are individual and should make their own mind up, and of course he has gone now, this is a worse legacy for him than his goal scoring record.
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How do you know he was ‘dictating’ the response?

Worse legacy than his goal scoring record. I have to say that is some take, it feels like you are dictating what you expect our players to do.
 
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Pembroke said:
Whats has taking the knee achieved? Next to nothing. Its hard to achieve anything without a big plan to work towards with aims and objectives.

Meanwhile football clubs are taken over by owners who are? Clubs and International teams play in Countries that are? Wearing kit produced by companes who?

The now now is no different to the now when kneeling started. Its meaningless and impotent.
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You're not going to end racism and prejudice overnight, and it would be fanciful to imagine that football players are ever going to have power over who owns their club, produces their kit or decides where they play. They are role models for young people though, and whilst they continue to take the knee they are affecting young brains in a positive, if humble, way.

Put another way, are you saying that anti-racism is better served by their doing nothing and just kicking off? That that is a more powerful statement? Every time they just kicked off football fans would think "I'm going to use their lack of a token gesture to make a much more powerful one through my personal anti-racist crusade?
 
My mam saw some kids playing five a side in a court in Ingleby a couple of years ago. They were just about to start, and before they did, one of them went “Hang on, take the knee”, and they all did.

I loved that.

Funny, and obviously just for a laugh from what they’ve seen on TV, but that’s what raising awareness is all about.
 
equaliser said:
You're not going to end racism and prejudice overnight, and it would be fanciful to imagine that football players are ever going to have power over who owns their club, produces their kit or decides where they play. They are role models for young people though, and whilst they continue to take the knee they are affecting young brains in a positive, if humble, way.

Put another way, are you saying that anti-racism is better served by their doing nothing and just kicking off? That that is a more powerful statement? Every time they just kicked off football fans would think "I'm going to use their lack of a token gesture to make a much more powerful one through my personal anti-racist crusade?
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Yes you will not end racism. You will not also end racism by having T&C's with anti racism activities that knock off for touranments.
 
GazC_MFC said:
How do you know he was ‘dictating’ the response?

Worse legacy than his goal scoring record. I have to say that is some take, it feels like you are dictating what you expect our players to do.
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I have an opinion on how I expect our players to behave, as do you, not sure why you are getting uppity over it.

As for dictating, he was captain and was asked to resolve the situation regarding taking the knee. This was widely publicised at the time.
 
equaliser said:
Put another way, are you saying that anti-racism is better served by their doing nothing and just kicking off? That that is a more powerful statement? Every time they just kicked off football fans would think "I'm going to use their lack of a token gesture to make a much more powerful one through my personal anti-racist crusade?
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The fact is, we are at the point now where no gesture means the racists have won and got their own way, so no gesture is a powerful gesture against anti-racism campaigns
 
I,ll be honest I have never agreed with this whole taking the knee , especially the reasons it came about, I,m not going to get in this whole Black Lives Matter issue , couldn't care what colour anyone is , all lives matter , and to suggest any colour matters more than any other is surely racist in itself , I await the usual suspects responses ..........., but please actually read what I have said before getting your knickers in a twist(y)
 
Whilst I am a big lover of seeing players kneel before a match, I don't think it is true to say "everyone" who boos is racist. There is a point of view that kneeling is worthless without positive action. Not meaning to be controversial, but I think it is wrong to label in that way.
 
Laughing said:
Whilst I am a big lover of seeing players kneel before a match, I don't think it is true to say "everyone" who boos is racist. There is a point of view that kneeling is worthless without positive action. Not meaning to be controversial, but I think it is wrong to label in that way.
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Kneeling might be worthless without positive action. But not doing anything is definitely worthless and I will be controversial, although I think it's self evident, everyone who boos is a racist.
 
BoroMart said:
I have an opinion on how I expect our players to behave, as do you, not sure why you are getting uppity over it.

As for dictating, he was captain and was asked to resolve the situation regarding taking the knee. This was widely publicised at the time.
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www.thenorthernecho.co.uk

'We want actual change' - Britt Assombalonga explains why Middlesbrough's players have decided to stop taking a knee

MIDDLESBROUGH’S players have decided to stop the pre-match practice of taking a knee, with skipper Britt Assombalonga arguing it is time for…
www.thenorthernecho.co.uk www.thenorthernecho.co.uk

Sounds to me it was a collective decision, refers to it as ‘we’ throughout and that they got the boys together.

There plausible reasons for not doing it within the article. Reference to les Ferdinand and that hit a tone.

I don’t think as a white person, I’m in any position to tell our black players what I ‘expect’ from them.
 
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Laughing said:
Whilst I am a big lover of seeing players kneel before a match, I don't think it is true to say "everyone" who boos is racist. There is a point of view that kneeling is worthless without positive action. Not meaning to be controversial, but I think it is wrong to label in that way.
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I'm certain nobody booing is bothered about an end to racism
 
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