Cricket explanation thread..

Heam44

Heam44

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Yo yo yo FMTTM’ers.

I don’t know much at all about Cricket, other that the basics.

It’s never really interested me, I’ve previously taken a slight interest in previous ashes series however I’ve found myself watching this one when possible. The “shock”/ reaction of England’s first declaration got me interested for some reason.

However the commentators pundits are discussing several somewhat complex factors that clearly are important to the game that I have no idea what they’re going on about.

Therefore, I have a few questions that I’m sure some posters will be able to answer for me. I’m likely to ask a few more as the series goes on, maybe others also have some cricket related questions also…

Firstly, what’s the relevance of a new ball? Is it better for the bowlers or batters? And why?

2. What’s the craic with clouds making it better for the bowlers? Does it make the ball move more and if so, how?

3. What makes the pitch better / worse for batters / bowlers?

4. What the craic with LBW? Does the ball have to bounce inside that blue line to be out?

5. If the ball hits the batters arm / leg etc and then is caught does that mean the batter is out? Or does it have to hit his bat before the arm/ leg.
 
Just fired this into AI and this is what it came up with for you. ;)

  1. The new ball: In cricket, a new ball is introduced after a specified number of overs (usually 80 in Test matches). The new ball is advantageous for the bowlers because it tends to swing more in the air. The seam is pronounced, allowing the bowlers to generate more movement off the pitch, especially if the conditions are suitable. The harder surface of the new ball also provides more bounce, making it challenging for batsmen to score runs easily.
  2. Clouds and bowling conditions: Cloud cover can create more favorable conditions for bowlers. When the sky is overcast, it can lead to increased moisture in the air, which helps the ball swing more. The cloudy conditions can assist seam bowlers in generating movement off the pitch as well. The absence of direct sunlight can also keep the pitch from drying out, which can aid the bowlers as the ball may retain its shine and hardness for longer.
  3. Pitch conditions: The pitch is the playing surface in the middle of the cricket field. The quality of the pitch can significantly influence the game. A pitch with more grass covering tends to assist fast bowlers as the ball can seam and bounce more. On the other hand, a dry and worn-out pitch can favor spin bowlers as it offers grip and turn. A flat and even pitch with little to no assistance for bowlers is generally considered better for batsmen as it allows for easier scoring of runs.
  4. LBW (Leg Before Wicket): LBW is a method of dismissal in cricket where a batsman can be given out if the ball would have hit the stumps, but their leg (or any part of their body) was in the way. The ball doesn't have to bounce within a specific line to result in an LBW dismissal. The umpire judges whether the ball would have gone on to hit the stumps if it hadn't hit the batsman's leg first. If the umpire determines that the ball would have hit the stumps and the other criteria for an LBW dismissal are met (such as the point of impact being within a certain area in front of the wicket), the batsman is given out.
  5. If the ball hits a batsman's arm or leg and is then caught by a fielder, the batsman is not out. To be dismissed, the ball must either hit the batsman's bat or glove first before being caught, or it must hit the batsman's body, pad, or any other part and then directly hit the stumps (resulting in a run-out) or be caught by a fielder without bouncing. If the ball hits a batsman's arm or leg and is caught before hitting the ground, it is not considered a legal catch, and the batsman is not out.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
Just fired this into AI and this is what it came up with for you. ;)

  1. The new ball: In cricket, a new ball is introduced after a specified number of overs (usually 80 in Test matches). The new ball is advantageous for the bowlers because it tends to swing more in the air. The seam is pronounced, allowing the bowlers to generate more movement off the pitch, especially if the conditions are suitable. The harder surface of the new ball also provides more bounce, making it challenging for batsmen to score runs easily.
  2. Clouds and bowling conditions: Cloud cover can create more favorable conditions for bowlers. When the sky is overcast, it can lead to increased moisture in the air, which helps the ball swing more. The cloudy conditions can assist seam bowlers in generating movement off the pitch as well. The absence of direct sunlight can also keep the pitch from drying out, which can aid the bowlers as the ball may retain its shine and hardness for longer.
  3. Pitch conditions: The pitch is the playing surface in the middle of the cricket field. The quality of the pitch can significantly influence the game. A pitch with more grass covering tends to assist fast bowlers as the ball can seam and bounce more. On the other hand, a dry and worn-out pitch can favor spin bowlers as it offers grip and turn. A flat and even pitch with little to no assistance for bowlers is generally considered better for batsmen as it allows for easier scoring of runs.
  4. LBW (Leg Before Wicket): LBW is a method of dismissal in cricket where a batsman can be given out if the ball would have hit the stumps, but their leg (or any part of their body) was in the way. The ball doesn't have to bounce within a specific line to result in an LBW dismissal. The umpire judges whether the ball would have gone on to hit the stumps if it hadn't hit the batsman's leg first. If the umpire determines that the ball would have hit the stumps and the other criteria for an LBW dismissal are met (such as the point of impact being within a certain area in front of the wicket), the batsman is given out.
  5. If the ball hits a batsman's arm or leg and is then caught by a fielder, the batsman is not out. To be dismissed, the ball must either hit the batsman's bat or glove first before being caught, or it must hit the batsman's body, pad, or any other part and then directly hit the stumps (resulting in a run-out) or be caught by a fielder without bouncing. If the ball hits a batsman's arm or leg and is caught before hitting the ground, it is not considered a legal catch, and the batsman is not out.
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Wow thanks matey
 
Heam44 said:
Wow thanks matey
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I like this explanation better.

  • You have two sides, one out in the field and one in.
  • Each man that’s in the side that’s in the field goes out and when he’s out comes in and the next man goes in until he’s out.
  • When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in.
  • When they are all out, the side that’s out comes in and the side that’s been in goes out and tries to get those coming in out.
  • Sometimes there are men still in and not out.
  • There are men called umpires who stay out all the time, and they decide when the men who are in are out.
  • Depending on the weather and the light, the umpires can also send everybody in, no matter whether they’re in or out.
  • When both sides have been in and all the men are out (including those who are not out), then the game is finished.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
Just fired this into AI and this is what it came up with for you. ;)
  1. LBW (Leg Before Wicket): LBW is a method of dismissal in cricket where a batsman can be given out if the ball would have hit the stumps, but their leg (or any part of their body) was in the way. The ball doesn't have to bounce within a specific line to result in an LBW dismissal. The umpire judges whether the ball would have gone on to hit the stumps if it hadn't hit the batsman's leg first. If the umpire determines that the ball would have hit the stumps and the other criteria for an LBW dismissal are met (such as the point of impact being within a certain area in front of the wicket), the batsman is given out.
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This is an over simplification as it misses a key point.
As long as the batsman is playing a shot then if the ball pitches outside of the line of leg stump the batsman cannot be out lbw. The ball needs to pitch on the stumps or outside the line of the stumps on the side their bat is for them to be out lbw.
 
RedAsABeetroot said:
This is an over simplification as it misses a key point.
As long as the batsman is playing a shot then if the ball pitches outside of the line of leg stump the batsman cannot be out lbw. The ball needs to pitch on the stumps or outside the line of the stumps on the side their bat is for them to be out lbw.
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Not my explanation, as I mentioned above I put Heam44 questions into AI and that is the answers it came up with.
 
RedAsABeetroot said:
This is an over simplification as it misses a key point.
As long as the batsman is playing a shot then if the ball pitches outside of the line of leg stump the batsman cannot be out lbw. The ball needs to pitch on the stumps or outside the line of the stumps on the side their bat is for them to be out lbw.
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Norman_Conquest said:
Not my explanation, as I mentioned above I put Heam44 questions into AI and that is the answers it came up with.
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I've just put your reply into AI and this is what he came up with:

Actually, the statement you provided is not entirely accurate. In cricket, the decision for an LBW (leg before wicket) dismissal depends on several factors, including the position of the ball and the actions of the batsman. Let me explain the key principles regarding LBW dismissals:

  1. Leg Before Wicket (LBW) Rule: LBW is a method of dismissal in cricket when the batsman prevents the ball from hitting the stumps with their bat, and instead, the ball strikes their leg or any part of their body before hitting the stumps.
  2. Consideration of Three Factors: When determining an LBW dismissal, three factors are taken into account: the position of the ball, the position of the stumps, and the actions of the batsman.
  3. Ball's Position: The ball must pitch (bounce) in line with the stumps or hit the batsman's leg before hitting the stumps for an LBW decision to be considered.
  4. Stumps' Position: The ball must also be predicted to go on and hit the stumps to be considered for an LBW dismissal. The decision depends on whether the ball would have gone on to hit the stumps had the batsman not been in the way.
  5. Batsman's Actions: If the batsman plays a shot, then the question of LBW dismissal arises only if the ball fulfills the criteria mentioned above. If the batsman misses the ball with their bat, the umpire considers whether the ball would have hit the stumps without any contact with the bat.
  6. Impact Outside Off Stump: It is important to note that the point of impact (where the ball strikes the batsman's leg) is considered in relation to the line of the off stump, not the leg stump. If the ball pitches outside the line of the leg stump and goes on to hit the batsman's leg in line with the off stump, it can still be considered for an LBW dismissal.
  7. Umpire's Judgment: Ultimately, the final decision of an LBW dismissal lies with the on-field umpire, who needs to consider all the factors mentioned above and use their judgment to determine whether the batsman would have been out if not for any contact with the bat.
In summary, a batsman can be given out LBW if the ball hits their leg before hitting the stumps, provided that the ball would have gone on to hit the stumps if the batsman had not played a shot or obstructed the path of the ball. The line of the leg stump is not the decisive factor for LBW decisions.
 
RedAsABeetroot said:
This is an over simplification as it misses a key point.
As long as the batsman is playing a shot then if the ball pitches outside of the line of leg stump the batsman cannot be out lbw. The ball needs to pitch on the stumps or outside the line of the stumps on the side their bat is for them to be out lbw.
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Actually if the ball pitches outside leg you can never be out lbw, doesn’t matter if you’re playing a shot or not.
 
Assuming leg stump is the stump closest to the batters leg and and off stump is furthest away,

Does this remain the same for a left handed batsman? Or does the stumps then ‘swap’?
 
Question regarding bowling: Can the bowler bowl from either side of the stumps (not the ones the Batsman is stood at)?

Or does he have to go from the left for a right handed batsman and the right for a left handed batsmen etc?
 
Heam44 said:
Assuming leg stump is the stump closest to the batters leg and and off stump is furthest away,

Does this remain the same for a left handed batsman? Or does the stumps then ‘swap’?
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They swap.

And the bowler can bowl from either side.
 
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Heam44 said:
Question regarding bowling: Can the bowler bowl from either side of the stumps (not the ones the Batsman is stood at)?

Or does he have to go from the left for a right handed batsman and the right for a left handed batsmen etc?
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You can swap but may need to tell the umpire beforehand…I once got told by an umpire for doing it when i was a kid
 
Heam44 said:
Question regarding bowling: Can the bowler bowl from either side of the stumps (not the ones the Batsman is stood at)?

Or does he have to go from the left for a right handed batsman and the right for a left handed batsmen etc?
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What a Silly Point (sic).
 
I remember Allan Border doing a interview about the LBW rules a few years ago, he basically said that they are a load of b0llocks, he said, if the ball misses your bat, hits your leg and is going to hit any part of the wickets, you're out.
 
SE4 Red said:
Square to the batsman on the offside just a few feet away. Time for the helmet.

Haha just realised you were replying in jest to the message above.
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You have to tell the umpire if your bowling left or right handed and which side of the wickets you’re bowling from (over or round the wickets) and they will inform the batter
 
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