Bruciebonus
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Of which you have been unable to disprove a single statement.That’s an absolute word salad of conspiracy and cultist nonsense
Of which you have been unable to disprove a single statement.That’s an absolute word salad of conspiracy and cultist nonsense
Ah yes the witch hunttrial as a political hit job,
It seems like you've interpreted lower standard of proof as 'innocent'.Oh dear, this topic seems to attract the unhinged.
Not quite sure I follow your logic there. Where have I agreed that he is a rapist and I think it's a virtue?
I pointed out the difference between a criminal and civil trail. The fact that the latter does not require proof beyond reasonable doubt, means they have not proved anything. As I pointed out a lot of americans see the trial as a political hit job, hence why his poll ratings are unaffected by the verdict.
It seems on here, when it comes to Trump people seem unable to debate on facts but instead descend quickly into personal abuse.
It certainly doesn't meet the threshold of a criminal conviction. I assume you believe in innocent until 'proven' guilty?It seems like you've interpreted lower standard of proof as 'innocent'.
Well it means that he is in the opinion of the jury a sex offender on the standard of proof they were asked to decide upon.Oh dear, this topic seems to attract the unhinged.
Not quite sure I follow your logic there. Where have I agreed that he is a rapist and I think it's a virtue?
I pointed out the difference between a criminal and civil trail. The fact that the latter does not require proof beyond reasonable doubt, means they have not proved anything. As I pointed out a lot of americans see the trial as a political hit job, hence why his poll ratings are unaffected by the verdict.
It seems on here, when it comes to Trump people seem unable to debate on facts but instead descend quickly into personal abuse.
I believe that a man with a track record of unpleasant behaviour and attitudes to women, staring at £83m worth of damages, is not dwelling in the realm of innocence.It certainly doesn't meet the threshold of a criminal conviction. I assume you believe in innocent until 'proven' guilty?
Oh dear, this topic seems to attract the unhinged.
A 'standard of proof' which was very, very low.Well it means that he is in the opinion of the jury a sex offender on the standard of proof they were asked to decide upon.
Rape is notoriously difficult to adjudicate beyond reasonable doubt when it comes to one word vs another, as it invariably does - hence the abysmal conviction rate. Are you completely blind to Trump's track record? Was the Billy Bush tape fabricated? His association with Jeffrey Epstein entirely innocuous? The rape allegation of his ex wife? Looks like a duck and says quack.A 'standard of proof' which was very, very low.
No physical evidence, no eye witnesses able to place the two of them together at the scene, no specific time or date the offence occurred. The last one being important as person like Trump that travels and carries out a lot of business engagements can usually prove where he was at any given time.
If a few people from on here were on the jury, they wouldn't need much 'proof' to find against him.
Would you like pineapple with that?De Niro, serial philanderer, druggy, pimp (France prostitution ring), countless property scandals, countless discrimination cases, renowned sexist, serial abuser the list goes on so how has he stayed out of jail tells its own story on how corrupt Hollywood really is.
This guy or slime ball (De Niro) despite being born in NY) has a list of (real) convictions against him that would probably make the fictitious character Michael Corleon sit up and wink, well done De Niro!
De Niro showed his true colours when he supported a certain Bill Clinton for his sexual philandering, perversions and misconduct with Monica Lewinsky (and countless other crimes) during his terms in office.
De Niro, has also been accused of gaslighting, grooming, and various other crimes against women, so those who support him probably agree with his odious crimes.
The quote taken from the testimony from his trial with his former assistant really encapsulates everything about De Niro, the Hollywood crook and gangster at-large…, “De Niro directed Ms. Robinson to imagine him on the toilet. He told Ms. Robinson that doing manual labor would ‘make a man out of you.’ De Niro suggested that Ms. Robinson could get pregnant using sperm from her (married) male co-worker.”
De Niro, is an absolute disgrace to the human race and anyone who supports this vile excuse for a human probably needs to have their head examined and maybe follow the team up the road!
Last note anyone think (some of) De Niro’s movies (Taxi Driver etc) were especially written for him because the movie probably represented his true identity?
When I said unhinged I was referring to the abusive or rant filled responses.Yep. You said it …. Trump does indeed seem to attract the unhinged.
And the stupid, the naive, the conspiracy theorist, the ignorant, the ill-informed, the racist, the manipulated, the dumb, the psychotic, the fascist, the criminal, the opportunist grifter, the easily fooled, the misled, the religious fundamentalist nutjob, etc
Which are you?
Res judicata and all that!A 'standard of proof' which was very, very low.
No physical evidence, no eye witnesses able to place the two of them together at the scene, no specific time or date the offence occurred. The last one being important as person like Trump that travels and carries out a lot of business engagements can usually prove where he was at any given time.
If a few people from on here were on the jury, they wouldn't need much 'proof' to find against him.
You couldn’t be more accurate yet more lacking in self-awareness at the same timeOh dear, this topic seems to attract the unhinged.
I’ve got a low tolerance for stupidity and you triggered itIt seems on here, when it comes to Trump people seem unable to debate on facts but instead descend quickly into personal abuse.
You can’t disprove opinion, your opinion is that he’s the messiah, cultist fools always believe that though. We can sit here and debate the facts all day long but you don’t have the mental capacity to understand them so it would be a pointless waste of my time. The guys a psychopath, the only reason he isn’t in prison is the inherited wealth that buys you rich man’s justice. He’s a proven sex offender, a man devoid of honesty or integrity, a grifter. But you’ll never ever see that because you’ve been sucked in.Of which you have been unable to disprove a single statement.
He also created the red line time line gir a withdrawal in Afghanistan thst did Cost many many lives this giving the country back to the Talliban.To say Trump is a peace loving dove and didn’t start conflicts is completely disingenuous.
He might not put boots on the ground in a new country, but he did do the following.
He launched more drone strikes in his 4 years than Obama did in 8. One of his first decisions when he got into the White House was to approve a raid that killed an America child, one which Obama refused because it was to risky. He never withdrew from Afghanistan like he said he would. He assassinated an Iranian general who was fighting ISIS almost instigating a war. He ripped up the nuclear agreement with Iran which they were abiding by, paving the way for them to continue developing nuclear weapons.
It’s complete bull that he’s the peace candidate in American politics.
Quite possibly all of the above?Yep. You said it …. Trump does indeed seem to attract the unhinged.
And the stupid, the naive, the conspiracy theorist, the ignorant, the ill-informed, the racist, the manipulated, the dumb, the psychotic, the fascist, the criminal, the opportunist grifter, the easily fooled, the misled, the religious fundamentalist nutjob, etc
Which are you?
The first thing any rape investigation would seek to establish is to place the accused in the vicinity of the accuser at the time of the allegation. If that can't be proven the investigation will go nowhere. You can't base a rape accusation on previous boorish comments or because he knows someone.Rape is notoriously difficult to adjudicate beyond reasonable doubt when it comes to one word vs another, as it invariably does - hence the abysmal conviction rate. Are you completely blind to Trump's track record? Was the Billy Bush tape fabricated? His association with Jeffrey Epstein entirely innocuous? The rape allegation of his ex wife? Looks like a duck and says quack.