Derby fans singing about Having a party when Steve Gibson dies

I'm not defending the chant because it becomes personal when it's about one person. The Forest fans had been singing the same chant that day, but with the club Derby County being the target, not Gibson. My first thought on hearing it was that Boro fans don't tend to have chants with such material but then on further thought I remembered the Keegan and the Build a Bonfire chants. Both take on a jovial feel when being sang by our fans. We are familiar with them, they aren't to be taken seriously, but in reality they are very similar to Derby's chant?
 
Someone has posted on twitter that the club have blocked west stand upper ticket sales as Derby fans are trying to get them... surely the ticketing system would block this?

Edit - only just seen the dedicated thread about this :rolleyes:
 
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One of my oldest mates is a Derby fan. He's always hated Boro (moved away from Derby to teesside when he was 7 and always held a grudge I think). The hilarious thing is it's nearly always backfired. In the 30+ years I've known him they've rarely finished above us and been on the end of numerous thrashings. He was all over social media when Gibson first made the allegations calling us a "tinpot club" (that's aged well) and he's been on recently with long rambling posts about how Gibson wants to drive them out of business.

He's no idiot, he works as a director for a local council. But he's completely let his bias overrule his thinking on this. He wants to be able to blame Gibson so he finds the evidence to support that and ignores the rest.

I don't engage. What's the point? It's like trying to debate brexit at this point. I certainly won't gloat if they go into liquidation (despite him repeatedly gloating at boro's misfortune over the years) but do I really care? Not anymore.

I'll have sympathy for the decent, rational Derby fans who know where the blame lies. The many who are behaving like idiots who are whining like kids and lashing out. Couldn't care less if they lose their club.
 
festa5 said:
One of my oldest mates is a Derby fan. He's always hated Boro (moved away from Derby to teesside when he was 7 and always held a grudge I think). The hilarious thing is it's nearly always backfired. In the 30+ years I've known him they've rarely finished above us and been on the end of numerous thrashings. He was all over social media when Gibson first made the allegations calling us a "tinpot club" (that's aged well) and he's been on recently with long rambling posts about how Gibson wants to drive them out of business.

He's no idiot, he works as a director for a local council. But he's completely let his bias overrule his thinking on this. He wants to be able to blame Gibson so he finds the evidence to support that and ignores the rest.

I don't engage. What's the point? It's like trying to debate brexit at this point. I certainly won't gloat if they go into liquidation (despite him repeatedly gloating at boro's misfortune over the years) but do I really care? Not anymore.

I'll have sympathy for the decent, rational Derby fans who know where the blame lies. The many who are behaving like idiots who are whining like kids and lashing out. Couldn't care less if they lose their club.
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If I had a close mate who was behaving like that I’d tell him for sure and make it clear that I think that he was being irrational and immature.
 
Zoophonic said:
If I had a close mate who was behaving like that I’d tell him for sure and make it clear that I think that he was being irrational and immature.
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It's tempting but I just don't think it's worth falling out over. Plus I think he's learnt over the years I'm not going to bite. So he'll put stuff on Facebook or Twitter that I'll see, but it's never targeted at me. He never tags me or anything. He's just lashing out, so I let him crack on.

He did put something on my old school mates WhatsApp group we're in last week, but no-one took the bait. I pointed him in the direction of the Wycombe chairman's interview and said no more. He was otherwise pretty much just ignored. Which probably annoyed him more than any amount of argument would've done anyway!
 
dan_ashcroft said:
I'm not defending the chant because it becomes personal when it's about one person. The Forest fans had been singing the same chant that day, but with the club Derby County being the target, not Gibson. My first thought on hearing it was that Boro fans don't tend to have chants with such material but then on further thought I remembered the Keegan and the Build a Bonfire chants. Both take on a jovial feel when being sang by our fans. We are familiar with them, they aren't to be taken seriously, but in reality they are very similar to Derby's chant?
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thing is Keegans kids went to school in Norton, he'd pick them up once a week, there were no serious threats to him at all, it was maybe bad taste, but not serious, this smells of something else
 
I see a group of our supporters were singing the exact same song with the words "when derby county die".

Its really difficult to criticise the muppets from derby when we have supporters singing the same.

I've not met anyone in the real world (away from social media) in or around m/bro who want derby to go into liquidation and yet here we have fans singing and posting this on the internet.

Embarrassing 🙈🙈🙈
 
Mfc79 said:
I see a group of our supporters were singing the exact same song with the words "when derby county die".

Its really difficult to criticise the muppets from derby when we have supporters singing the same.

I've not met anyone in the real world (away from social media) in or around m/bro who want derby to go into liquidation and yet here we have fans singing and posting this on the internet.

Embarrassing 🙈🙈🙈
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It is embarassing, and I think fans should start phasing out those sort of lyrics in today's society, but at the same time singing it about a football club isn't the same as singing about an individual.
 
Was ever thus sadly.
No supporters have ever had as much abuse doled out at them as us after the Cleveland Child Abuse cases.
Just because others do it doesn't make it any more palatable when we do it IMO.
Lines are drawn and Derby fans singing about Gibsons death is a long way over it.
 
TeaCider said:
It is embarassing, and I think fans should start phasing out those sort of lyrics in today's society, but at the same time singing it about a football club isn't the same as singing about an individual.
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TeaCider said:
It is embarassing, and I think fans should start phasing out those sort of lyrics in today's society, but at the same time singing it about a football club isn't the same as singing about an individual.
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You're absolutely right. There is a distinct difference but I dont think it reflects well on our club that we have fans gloating about another club falling into liquidation particularly as it directly contradicts the views of the vast majority of our fans.
 
I'm glad someone pointed this out, when we play derby, they will sing abusive songs about Gibson, we will sing songs about how happy we are they are going bust, and it will ending fighting, with both sets of supporters being as bad as each other. From everything I've read both sets of fans are equally as bad as each other here. Steve Gibson is in the right, but we would be much better served by sticking to boro here. Trust me despite the fact that Gibson is vindicated, I can guarantee there aren't many fans or people in the football world that agree with us. Chanting about derby's woes is going to be a big mistake.
 
Warwickboro said:
Trust me despite the fact that Gibson is vindicated, I can guarantee there aren't many fans or people in the football world that agree with us. Chanting about derby's woes is going to be a big mistake.
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It's a bad look, but Derby aren't going to go under, they're probably going to go down, but they'll only be going down because they cheated.

I can't see there being any real pushback from neutrals, Derby fans will be angry, but they'd be angry anyway because Gibson is the main reason they were caught out in the first place.
As soon as Derby's takeover is confirmed, neutrals will stop caring.
 
Mfc79 said:
I see a group of our supporters were singing the exact same song with the words "when derby county die".

Its really difficult to criticise the muppets from derby when we have supporters singing the same.
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I think it's clearly a reaction to the Gibson chants at the weekend, we've never sung about them before, ever
 
BoroMart said:
I think it's clearly a reaction to the Gibson chants at the weekend, we've never sung about them before, ever
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I know, but they will claim that they are reacting to us and so on and so on. I enjoy banter between fans but this is ugly, and we should remove ourselves from the situation, let the football world see the derby fans creating trouble on their own, not them being what may be seen as provoked. We may know it was a reaction to them, but we will be the ones that are made to look like the culprits and antagonists here, all sympathy will be with the Derby fans.
 
festa5 said:
One of my oldest mates is a Derby fan. He's always hated Boro (moved away from Derby to teesside when he was 7 and always held a grudge I think). The hilarious thing is it's nearly always backfired. In the 30+ years I've known him they've rarely finished above us and been on the end of numerous thrashings. He was all over social media when Gibson first made the allegations calling us a "tinpot club" (that's aged well) and he's been on recently with long rambling posts about how Gibson wants to drive them out of business.

He's no idiot, he works as a director for a local council. But he's completely let his bias overrule his thinking on this. He wants to be able to blame Gibson so he finds the evidence to support that and ignores the rest.

I don't engage. What's the point? It's like trying to debate brexit at this point. I certainly won't gloat if they go into liquidation (despite him repeatedly gloating at boro's misfortune over the years) but do I really care? Not anymore.

I'll have sympathy for the decent, rational Derby fans who know where the blame lies. The many who are behaving like idiots who are whining like kids and lashing out. Couldn't care less if they lose their club.
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"He's no idiot, he works as a director for a local council." - that gave me a chuckle, cheers festa x
 
Right, I've just sussed that comments are allowed on the latest article on Derbyshire Live (for the time being). I didn't even need to create an account.

The article stresses that Gibson and Couhig are "reasonable men" but I've just replied to a Derby fan's opening comment claiming the opposite.

It would be great if other FMTTM users add similar, messages pointing out the bleeding obvious about Saint Mel.

But let's keep it civil. We'll never be able to change a blinkered sheep into anything else, but it's an ideal opportunity to put our side of the story on their local newspaper website, which, along with BBC Radio Derby are continuing to pour fuel on the fire.


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