Does the British pub still play a part in our community? In our lives? CAMRA believe the Pub is heading for extinction......!

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r00fie1

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Save our pubs campaign - CAMRA - Campaign for Real Ale

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CAMRA have launched a Campaign to "Save Or Pubs".

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Pubs are under threat of extinction​


New restrictions on pubs, clubs and other hospitality venues across the UK are being bought in as a result of the COVID-19 crisis. Without immediate financial support from the UK and devolved Governments we could lose thousands of our locals.
Pubs have been operating at a reduced level, and many licensees have invested thousands to make their premises COVID-secure. Devolved Governments and the UK Government have extended some support for pubs affected by local lockdowns and new restrictions, but it won’t be enough to prevent closures.
You can click the buttons below to take part in our campaign. This will let you email your elected representatives and ask them to urge the Government to ensure that pubs are given fast and comprehensive financial support. You don’t have to be a CAMRA member to take part, so please share as widely as you can on social media. We want to make sure that we reach as many people as possible.


CAMRA campaigns to save the Great British Pub from extinction.


We’ve used the ‘Pulling Together’ campaign to try and ensure the survival of pubs through the COVID-19 crisis, but we also want to see long-term change so pubs can thrive in the future.
The value of pubs cannot be overstated. The pub and beer industry supports nearly 900,000 jobs in the UK and contributes £23.6bn to the UK economy annually.


CAMRA commissioned research from Oxford University which found that people who have a local pub are happier, have more friends and feel more engaged with their local communities. Many pubs help provide space for the local people to meet, tackle loneliness, and strengthen the local community.
 
There has been a decline since the last crash in 2008, hasn't there?

I think pubs plays a big role in society, but won't market forces ultimately dictate?
 
r00fie1 said:

Save our pubs campaign - CAMRA - Campaign for Real Ale

camra.org.uk camra.org.uk

CAMRA have launched a Campaign to "Save Or Pubs".

SOP-Banner-no-words.jpg

Pubs are under threat of extinction​


New restrictions on pubs, clubs and other hospitality venues across the UK are being bought in as a result of the COVID-19 crisis. Without immediate financial support from the UK and devolved Governments we could lose thousands of our locals.
Pubs have been operating at a reduced level, and many licensees have invested thousands to make their premises COVID-secure. Devolved Governments and the UK Government have extended some support for pubs affected by local lockdowns and new restrictions, but it won’t be enough to prevent closures.
You can click the buttons below to take part in our campaign. This will let you email your elected representatives and ask them to urge the Government to ensure that pubs are given fast and comprehensive financial support. You don’t have to be a CAMRA member to take part, so please share as widely as you can on social media. We want to make sure that we reach as many people as possible.


CAMRA campaigns to save the Great British Pub from extinction.


We’ve used the ‘Pulling Together’ campaign to try and ensure the survival of pubs through the COVID-19 crisis, but we also want to see long-term change so pubs can thrive in the future.
The value of pubs cannot be overstated. The pub and beer industry supports nearly 900,000 jobs in the UK and contributes £23.6bn to the UK economy annually.


CAMRA commissioned research from Oxford University which found that people who have a local pub are happier, have more friends and feel more engaged with their local communities. Many pubs help provide space for the local people to meet, tackle loneliness, and strengthen the local community.
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Sent the email, very easy process and to my mind very important.
 
For years the Pub played a central role in recreation and to meet other fans, etc.
Nowadays I use a pub for coffee.
You dont notice the extortionate prices in pubs, unless you use them regularly.
Everyone has contributed to the decline of the pub by buying cheap beer from supermarkets - so everyone to some degree has to take responsibility.
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Used to like this stuff.
Very tastey
 
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My local/s are definitely part of the community they serve.

Some of the old boys (and I use that term with the upmost respect) are widowed and that is the only social interaction they get. I do worry about them now that pubs are closed, but I know that one landlady has been popping round to visit some of these pensioners. She has a chat with them on their doorsteps (at a safe distance) so they don't feel too lonely and isolated.

I can't imagine the manager of a chain pub doing that.
 
I'm quite active in the folk/performance scene up here and we're all really missing nights in pub backrooms. Used to go out 2 - 4 nights a week before this, doing a mixture of paid and unpaid stuff.

I'd hate to find a lot more pubs gone when we come back from this. There's nothing like losing yourself in a corner of a friendly pub that serves good drink. As for buying cheap supermarket alcohol, in short I don't, for the very reason outlined earlier.
 
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I'm quite active in the folk/performance scene up here and we're all really missing nights in pub backrooms. Used to go out 2 - 4 nights a week before this, doing a mixture of paid and unpaid stuff.

I'd hate to find a lot more pubs gone when we come back from this. There's nothing like losing yourself in a corner of a friendly pub that serves good drink. As for buying cheap supermarket alcohol, in short I don't, for the very reason outlined earlier.
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Are you a friend of PD
 
Pub companies haven't been good for the local, with their one model fits all approach they kicked off with. Knocking pubs into one room, no segregation of tastes. The Telstar and Kings Arms in Billingham two good examples.

There's been four micro pubs open within a 10 minute stroll of me in the last few years, each playing a role with regulars settling in from the off.

They're offering what the established boozers aren't, an escape from poor quality entertainment on the TV, while the old boozers look at karaokes, DJs and Sky Sports. They're replacing what was lost.

Some even have a decent range of draught beers, lagers and ciders, though they're till in the minority.
 
I go to a pub a few times a week in normal times. Not for more than a couple of pints, but I much prefer the taste of a decent draught beer than a bottled or canned one. Fortunately where I live, there are quite a few craft breweries that have taken over pubs and although the beer isn’t cheap, it’s so much better than anything from a chain pub.
 
I think they will come back into fashion to a degree. The thing is people now have a lot more to do with their spare money. Holidays and short break jaunts are more important to people and families nowadays.

The last few holidays I've been on I must have only had a couple of bottles of light lager and I used to love a few pints.

Pubs are dead and its only the microwave meals keeping a lot of these places open.

I noticed even some of the good smart pubs owned by the breweries Vaux. S&N now in private hand are as scruffy as or going down the pan.

My grandkids and kids have been to more places than I could have hoped for, and only war or national service took my dads generation to far away lands.

I think these city London/Leeds type pubs with a liquid lunch might still do alright? or the village pubs. at weekends.

Mind you Stocktons dive pubs might do OK and get tidied up once the Globes on the go.
 
Lots of environmental and commercial factors have contributed to the decline.

However pubs haven't helped themselves, too many homogeneous identikit pubs be that a gastro pub, wine bar, fun pub or village local etc...

Once chains took over rather than individuals they all thought there was a magic formula rather than focussing on being niche, which is why many were successful in the past.
 
weemoby said:
My local/s are definitely part of the community they serve.

Some of the old boys (and I use that term with the upmost respect) are widowed and that is the only social interaction they get. I do worry about them now that pubs are closed, but I know that one landlady has been popping round to visit some of these pensioners. She has a chat with them on their doorsteps (at a safe distance) so they don't feel too lonely and isolated.

I can't imagine the manager of a chain pub doing that.
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The owners of our place have done the same. Thought it was a nice touch.
 
strange one the pubs. you have cheap supermarket beer but even now you can go online and buy any amount of craft beers, lagers, wines etc. all a lot cheaper than the pub. even home beer taps are just over 100 quid now. food doesn't help in the big chain pubs. the myton in ingleby is awful for microwaved pub grub.

maybe there are too many pubs, 2-3 in a village is now going to become 0-1.
 
Depends where you are I guess. In London pubs seem to go from strength (evolving with the times) and have many regular customers. Micropubs up and down the country seem to be revitalising pubs in a different way.

I worry about areas like Leicester and Greater Manchester that have pretty much never come out of lockdown. Will any of their pubs or restaurants survive come March? I do hope so. Pubs are such a huge part of British culture and need to be protected in whatever way they can be.
 
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