DWP/Tory dawn raids on ‘benefit fraud’

sherlock

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It sickens me how proud they are of this.

Benefit fraud needs to be tackled of course, but the amount lost is more than offset by unclaimed benefits. And is dwarfed by the money lost to tax avoidance and evasion.

WTF is this video? Breaking down people’s doors, wearing stab vests etc to come across as tough. And this is from the supposed Minister for Disabled People.

I don’t have words to adequately describe my contempt for this government.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648998758766575619
 
If that was true what the DWP are saying, why don't they help people claim financial help, often its left to charities and friends etc to help the vulnerable in society to claim support for rent, gas, electric, food, because they are unable to find employment often because of prejustice in the jobs market i.e many employers are very reluctant or refuse completely to employ someone with say a disability or someone of a certain age.

As said the amount unclaimed is much higher than any fraud. Every day there are disabled people giving up on life, because they can't cope.
 
Redwurzel said:
If that was true what the DWP are saying, why don't they help people claim financial help, often its left to charities and friends etc to help the vulnerable in society to claim support for rent, gas, electric, food, because they are unable to find employment often because of prejustice in the jobs market i.e many employers are very reluctant or refuse completely to employ someone with say a disability or someone of a certain age.

As said the amount unclaimed is much higher than any fraud. Every day there are disabled people giving up on life, because they can't cope.
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Some local councils do help claimants. I have just helped scope just this with Brent Council. The reason they didn't do it previously is because they did not have a 360 view of their residents. This is often the reason that help is denied, its generally not by design.
 
sherlock1969 said:
It sickens me how proud they are of this.

Benefit fraud needs to be tackled of course, but the amount lost is more than offset by unclaimed benefits. And is dwarfed by the money lost to tax avoidance and evasion.

WTF is this video? Breaking down people’s doors, wearing stab vests etc to come across as tough. And this is from the supposed Minister for Disabled People.

I don’t have words to adequately describe my contempt for this government.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648998758766575619
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Benefits claimants, refugees, woke people... sadly they're the Tory equivalent of Hitler's Jews.

For the Aryan race read proud nationalists who hate PC folk and snowflakes (despite being the biggest whingers out there).

People will say its a total overreaction and an insult to those who perished at the hands of Hitlers disgusting regime, yet the parallels are there.

Create a common enemy, demonise them as some sort of sub class, remove freedoms and Bob's your uncle, your on a very slippery slope.
 
Laughing said:
Some local councils do help claimants. I have just helped scope just this with Brent Council. The reason they didn't do it previously is because they did not have a 360 view of their residents. This is often the reason that help is denied, its generally not by design.
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Laughing - are you talking about help with housing benefit and council tax? - Other welfare payments are difficult to get help with, filling in the form and its a very big form. Councils are not connected to DWP. Councils have a different agenda to the DWP.

Citizens Advice have been warned not to help claimants with filling in forms by the DWP. DWP staff can't help - watch the "I Daniel Blake" film to get an idea of what it is like. Daniel Blake was sent to his Library for help as they had a PC he was allowed to use. A member of the Job Centre/DWP that went to help him was stopped and reprimanded in private by her supervisor. This was by design on the part of the DWP.
 
Got this book when it came out.
It accentuates the reallity behind a political elite who dont give a _____.
Hit the most vulnerable who dont have a voice.
Attack them for being non profit-making "economically inactive".
Brutality laid bare.
We need to give a voice to the voiceless.
(y)
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Crippled: Austerity and the Demonization of Disabled People Paperback – 1 Sept. 2020 ​

by Frances Ryan (Author)


Here`s some comments from the 5star review of 87% of readers:

* 5.0 out of 5 stars Politicians who care about their constituents should read this book!
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 20 October 2020

As a disabled person who has already had great difficulties getting suitable help as a result of the successive cuts, it's a thoroughly depressing and disturbing book. Having been through the interrogation of the DWP for access to PIP and refused a wheelchair on the basis that I can walk a few steps, I have experienced a little of what Frances Ryan is talking about. However it's also very enlightening and well written and really should be read by every politician in the UK who are meant to represent ALL their constituents.
What is so very annoying is that successive cuts are targeted at the people who often have the least voice. People who may be already exhausted at having to battle for the appropriate treatment from the NHS, even more so during the Covid-19 pandemic, people who are already sick and often run out of fight or the wherewithal to do it.
Thank you, Frances Ryan for producing a very hard hitting book.


* 5.0 out of 5 stars
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 16 June 2019

If you think UN claims regarding the treatment of disabled people in the UK 2010-2019 are exaggerated or simply not true, then please read this book with an open mind. An unfortunate side-effect of austerity cuts is that many disabled people are left without the means to communicate with the outside world, or else their desperate pleas for help are drowned in whatever kitten picture is going viral at the time. This book is well-researched, fact-based, and reveals the grotesque levels of inhumanity we as a society have sunk to in our treatment of the disabled. As you read, remember that it only takes a small accident to turn your life upside down, or that of a loved one. Would you want to be treated as less than human, or left without meaningful assistance as you try to help a loved one struck by disease or misfortune? The humanity of a society, the level of civilisation, can be measured in how that society treats its most vulnerable members. Currently, the United Kingdom, sadly and tragically, doesn't even achieve a 'Pass'.


* 5.0 out of 5 stars Made me ashamed and angry.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 23 October 2019

A must read for anyone who considers themselves to be a human being.
The author is spot on when she describes how disabled people are perceived by today’s society as fakers and scrounges. This is a tragic view that was fed to us from this cruel conservative government to justify austerity.
We are doing it so terribly wrong and it needs to change and fast.
This is a really good read, upsetting, informative and totally needed to open peoples eyes as to what is happening in our society.


Link:

Crippled: Austerity and the Demonization of Disabled People: Amazon.co.uk: Frances Ryan: 9781788739566: Books

Buy Crippled: Austerity and the Demonization of Disabled People 2 by Frances Ryan (ISBN: 9781788739566) from Amazon's Book Store. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders.
www.amazon.co.uk
 
r00fie1 said:
Got this book when it came out.
It accentuates the reallity behind a political elite who dont give a _____.
Hit the most vulnerable who dont have a voice.
Attack them for being non profit-making "economically inactive".
Brutality laid bare.
We need to give a voice to the voiceless.
(y)
View attachment 56552

Crippled: Austerity and the Demonization of Disabled People Paperback – 1 Sept. 2020 ​

by Frances Ryan (Author)


Here`s some comments from the 5star review of 87% of readers:

* 5.0 out of 5 stars Politicians who care about their constituents should read this book!
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 20 October 2020

As a disabled person who has already had great difficulties getting suitable help as a result of the successive cuts, it's a thoroughly depressing and disturbing book. Having been through the interrogation of the DWP for access to PIP and refused a wheelchair on the basis that I can walk a few steps, I have experienced a little of what Frances Ryan is talking about. However it's also very enlightening and well written and really should be read by every politician in the UK who are meant to represent ALL their constituents.
What is so very annoying is that successive cuts are targeted at the people who often have the least voice. People who may be already exhausted at having to battle for the appropriate treatment from the NHS, even more so during the Covid-19 pandemic, people who are already sick and often run out of fight or the wherewithal to do it.
Thank you, Frances Ryan for producing a very hard hitting book.


* 5.0 out of 5 stars
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 16 June 2019

If you think UN claims regarding the treatment of disabled people in the UK 2010-2019 are exaggerated or simply not true, then please read this book with an open mind. An unfortunate side-effect of austerity cuts is that many disabled people are left without the means to communicate with the outside world, or else their desperate pleas for help are drowned in whatever kitten picture is going viral at the time. This book is well-researched, fact-based, and reveals the grotesque levels of inhumanity we as a society have sunk to in our treatment of the disabled. As you read, remember that it only takes a small accident to turn your life upside down, or that of a loved one. Would you want to be treated as less than human, or left without meaningful assistance as you try to help a loved one struck by disease or misfortune? The humanity of a society, the level of civilisation, can be measured in how that society treats its most vulnerable members. Currently, the United Kingdom, sadly and tragically, doesn't even achieve a 'Pass'.


* 5.0 out of 5 stars Made me ashamed and angry.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 23 October 2019

A must read for anyone who considers themselves to be a human being.
The author is spot on when she describes how disabled people are perceived by today’s society as fakers and scrounges. This is a tragic view that was fed to us from this cruel conservative government to justify austerity.
We are doing it so terribly wrong and it needs to change and fast.
This is a really good read, upsetting, informative and totally needed to open peoples eyes as to what is happening in our society.


Link:

Crippled: Austerity and the Demonization of Disabled People: Amazon.co.uk: Frances Ryan: 9781788739566: Books

Buy Crippled: Austerity and the Demonization of Disabled People 2 by Frances Ryan (ISBN: 9781788739566) from Amazon's Book Store. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders.
www.amazon.co.uk
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It genuinely amazes me that Labour are not constantly attacking austerity. I know a couple of people who went through the awful PIP assessments. The Tories have deliberately made the lives of the least well off worse. They’ve targeted areas like Teesside deliberately and in the process removed billions in funding.

They then have the cheek to bang on about levelling up. People bloody fall for it too.
 
Nero said:
It genuinely amazes me that Labour are not constantly attacking austerity. I know a couple of people who went through the awful PIP assessments. The Tories have deliberately made the lives of the least well off worse. They’ve targeted areas like Teesside deliberately and in the process removed billions in funding.

They then have the cheek to bang on about levelling up. People bloody fall for it too.
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Trouble is, when Starmer was DPP - he supported imprisonment for people found guilty of any benefit fraud.
Labour are the second cheek of the same Tory back-side.
[At least the leadership is].
 
r00fie1 said:
Trouble is, when Starmer was DPP - he supported imprisonment for people found guilty of any benefit fraud.
Labour are the second cheek of the same Tory back-side.
[At least the leadership is].
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Yes I agree with that. Labour dare not take on the economic model in Britain. It’s a failed model and needs changing.
 
It’s all about the visuals…

Just like this operation artimis that cleveland police are doing…

Using the police for party political gain…

Just before an election but nothing in the 2 years before.. scum rises to the top in this country..
 
Redwurzel said:
Laughing - are you talking about help with housing benefit and council tax? - Other welfare payments are difficult to get help with, filling in the form and its a very big form. Councils are not connected to DWP. Councils have a different agenda to the DWP.

Citizens Advice have been warned not to help claimants with filling in forms by the DWP. DWP staff can't help - watch the "I Daniel Blake" film to get an idea of what it is like. Daniel Blake was sent to his Library for help as they had a PC he was allowed to use. A member of the Job Centre/DWP that went to help him was stopped and reprimanded in private by her supervisor. This was by design on the part of the DWP.
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Bent council have had drop in centers, can't remember what they call them now. They will help with any forms for any governmental department. They are also starting to monitor their residents over multiple systems so they can pro-actively advise on the availabe help, whether it is council help or state help.

I don't disagree with your comments on the movie. The DWP don't have those powers over council employees, and in fact, don't have those powers over their own employees, outside of "thats not your job". Your job is whatever your manager decides. Central government don't have any powers to stop them.
 
They only do this because it works.

A significant proportion of the blame sits on the shoulders of the millions of people who lap this bullshut up, are happy to be presented with scapegoats that they can blame for their own lives being full of failure and disappointment, and who will dash off the the polls to vote Tory; with any luck they'll forget their photo ID.
 
Redwurzel said:
Laughing - are you talking about help with housing benefit and council tax? - Other welfare payments are difficult to get help with, filling in the form and its a very big form. Councils are not connected to DWP. Councils have a different agenda to the DWP.

Citizens Advice have been warned not to help claimants with filling in forms by the DWP. DWP staff can't help - watch the "I Daniel Blake" film to get an idea of what it is like. Daniel Blake was sent to his Library for help as they had a PC he was allowed to use. A member of the Job Centre/DWP that went to help him was stopped and reprimanded in private by her supervisor. This was by design on the part of the DWP.
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I think that varies from one bureau to the next.
A friend of mine was helped massively by Citizens Advice after she had gone through a messy break up which meant she was living by herself for the first time in her life with two kids to boot too. The lady there she couldn't say more good things about. Helped her with all sorts.
 
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