Freeports

[RoaryTheLion]

It isn’t at all. It causes extra work and cost to all contractors.

And that isn’t my stock response. Because most people aren’t that pathetic that they will trawl back through years of posts to attack a random stranger on the internet.
You REALLY need to reflect what is lacking in your life that you feel this is in anyway acceptable behaviour

The mask is slipping. I won’t let your hypocrisy go unchallenged.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

Your stock deflecting reply. I think anyone who paid the correct tax and NI would be happy that loopholes, which allowed people to pay less than their fair share, were being closed. You seemed unhappy that the loopholes were being closed. Why is that? IR35 was not about punishing genuine contractors. It was to catch out employees masquerading as contractors. Is that how your firm operated?

They weren't employees and quite probably didn't have the chance to be such. The bite should have been put on the businesses who refused to accept their share of social responsibility.

They were and still are happy to make profit from contractors without doing their fair share. Without providing what full time employees take for granted.

We're all a product of our environment, this environment has developed over a long period of a particular political philosophy that's shaped the nation and the person. You can't look at contractors with their limited companies or self employment scheme of the day and ask them to behave in a different way to the limited companies that use their labour.

You're attacking the wrong people here, exactly what the right want.

 

[SmallTown]

The mask is slipping. I won’t let your hypocrisy go unchallenged.

What mask is slipping? You’re lying about me, trying to trawl through old posts to prove something and failing.
Yet still continuing. No mask slipping, you’re just showing yourself up as a real bottom feeder of a human

 

[RoaryTheLion]

They weren't employees and quite probably didn't have the chance to be such. The bite should have been out on the businesses who refused to accept their share of social responsibility.

They were and still are happy to make profit from contractors without doing their fair share. Without providing what full time employees take for granted.

We're all a product of our environment, this environment has developed over a long period of a particular political philosophy that's shaped the nation and the person. You can't look at contractors with their limited companies or self employment scheme of the day and ask them to behave in a different way to the limited companies that use their labour.

You're attacking the wrong people here, exactly what the right want.

He is the business so is that the correct people to question?
I absolutely apportion most of the blame on the companies. I do understand the appeal for working men and women to pay as little as possible. However, I do take umbrage when said people start spouting off about the tax and NI in other areas. You’ve lost the moral high ground. Just keep schtum and get it quietly.

 

[SmallTown]

They weren't employees and quite probably didn't have the chance to be such. The bite should have been put on the businesses who refused to accept their share of social responsibility.

They were and still are happy to make profit from contractors without doing their fair share. Without providing what full time employees take for granted.

We're all a product of our environment, this environment has developed over a long period of a particular political philosophy that's shaped the nation and the person. You can't look at contractors with their limited companies or self employment scheme of the day and ask them to behave in a different way to the limited companies that use their labour.

You're attacking the wrong people here, exactly what the right want.

Tbf I don’t think he’s attacking the wrong people. It appears he’s just one of those who wants to attack someone on a personal level. For whatever reason. I’ll never understand that type of behaviour. It seems really base and sad.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

He is the business so is that the correct people to question?
I absolutely apportion most of the blame on the companies. I do understand the appeal for working men and women to pay as little as possible. However, I do take umbrage when said people start spouting off about the tax and NI in other areas. You’ve lost the moral high ground. Just keep schtum and get it quietly.

My mistake, I thought he was a contractor.

We're in Britain, we're in a moral vacuum that's shaped so many. It's ok taking the high ground if you're in a safe place and can afford it. More and more are being pushed into an uncomfortable place where they don't have the choice.

We as a country have voted for those conditions, we have to change our minds about which direction we want to move in for the moral high ground to be a choice open to all.

If you're stuck with a mortgage growing because of interest rates, with utility bills rocketing due to profiteering and food bills doing the same it's not as easy as you make it out to be.

I saw people go to the wall in the 80s and 90s, families break up through hardship. It's here again and we're going to see the same under a similar government.

I can understand that contractors are going to get away with what they can to make ends meet. Had they been given full time work in a unionised company they may have more protection but the employers would have to do what they haven't done for 50 years, and then only in some cases, and take on social responsibility.

 

[RoaryTheLion]

My mistake, I thought he was a contractor.

We're in Britain, we're in a moral vacuum that's shaped so many. It's ok taking the high ground if you're in a safe place and can afford it. More and more are being pushed into an uncomfortable place where they don't have the choice.

We as a country have voted for those conditions, we have to change our minds about which direction we want to move in for the moral high ground to be a choice open to all.

If you're stuck with a mortgage growing because of interest rates, with utility bills rocketing due to profiteering and food bills doing the same it's not as easy as you make it out to be.

I saw people go to the wall in the 80s and 90s, families break up through hardship. It's here again and we're going to see the same under a similar government.

I can understand that contractors are going to get away with what they can to make ends meet. Had they been given full time work in a unionised company they may have more protection but the employers would have to do what they haven't done for 50 years, and then only in some cases, and take on social responsibility.

I agree with you entirely. Businesses should be taking the flack for this situation. I know a fair few people in on the self-employed loophole. Fair enough, do your thing but they don’t stand around giving lectures to others about the perils of tax avoidance. It’s the hypocrisy that bothers me.