God Save the King

RavsDad said:
I could have put France if I wanted a bit of irony. They seem well happy with the system.
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They are in The Fifth Republic at moment, which was established by De Gaulle. He was responsible for the fact it gives too much executive power to a single person. The President, but because it was De Gaulle it went through. It gives the President the right to bypass the elected assembly by decree…this was what the pension revolt is all about.
He could have put it to a vote but knew he would suffer defeat…even by his own party.
But it’s also about the belief that this Republic has served it’s time and to establish the Sixth Republic.
Imagine what La Pen would do the current situation if she achieved power.

But the government here enjoys more or less the same thing and they’re making sure to get more.
The ultimate restraint on a law passed now is an appeal to the high court to judge on its legality.
They will attempt to pass a bill to disallow the courts to overturn any law passed by Parliament. That probably is the last holding point from stopping the government doing exactly what they want. Add on the fact of boundary changes, attempts at voter suppression.
It becomes an elective dictatorship. But that’s ok.
Because it couldn’t happened here.
We should become more French and go out and really fight for retaining what little democracy we actually have….but hang on, now that’s against the law, holding banners and noisy protests. President John Kennedy made a relevant statement.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"
 
Colin Warnek said:
There’s always the Jezza Corbs mumble for those who abstain.
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Interesting that you introduce Jeremy into the discussion - it appears (according to this scribe) that Charlie is on the political platform with the Corbynista's and Caroline Lucas - and not wth boris, truss or sunak, nor the filthy bankers...

the counter culture king - the twin-set & pearls, blue stockings & patriots will be most upset that they have been taken for a ride - the mans a peacenik and a lover of the multi-cultural society.

 
80p? That's roughly what I spend for lunch every day (a tin of own-brand soup with bread), and sometimes I struggle to find it. Once I even pulled a sickie because I couldn't afford the petrol to get me and my 22 year old car in. That's my perfect life.
equaliser said:
But that's beside the point. Ask yourself this: If the royal family is so unimportant, why does the Daily Telegraph carry at least eleven royal 'stories' every single day of the week? The reason is because it deems it a vital part in the 'manufacture of consent'. Your disingenuousness is a manifestation of that process. If you like it, why not just say you like it? For the same reason that Sarah Vine's poison pen is wielded alongside a story about Kate Middleton's slingbacks.
Other people don't like it. Why can't that be their business same as liking it's yours? The fact is they were very deliberately closed down yesterday and even when they manage to raise their heads on an obscure message board they are hunted down by the outriders of reaction. The 'distraction' of royalty, as I try to explain below, is part of a deadly serious game. I would hope that the arrest of the leader of the impeccably polite and middle-class pressure group Republic might give you pause for thought.
I've even liked the OP's post because even though he was on a blatant wind-up at least he was honest. Fair enough, there were lots of happy flag wavers yesterday and even if my personal opinion is that they are idiots, I accept (for now) that I'm in a minority. Furthermore, if flag-waving is the only objectionable habit or attitude they possess then I'm fine with it.
It never is though.

Bread and circuses
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erm its 80p a week not day.

Look I have no issue with the royal family and couldn’t really care whether they exist or not as it really has no impact on my life.

My point is and always will be, is it about money that people have an issue with them (hence the 80p a week in tax comment, which regardless of what @BoroMart says, is the assumed cost for the average 20% tax payer), or is it the privilege (which is a completely different argument).

As for your circumstances, do you really think that without the royal family you would be much better off???

The choices people make politically will always far outweigh the cost of the royal family. Obviously this is just my opinion and you are more than welcome to continue to blame the monarchy for the everything that is wrong with the county.
 
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