Hillsborough

My understanding is that as their testimonies were for the purposes of the Taylor inquiry, there is no case for perverting the course of justice.
 
Whilst I understand why they want someone held to account, after 32 years of battling, I don’t think it’s the case that we should just hold anyone we can to account. I do feel for the families, but maybe the time has come for them to try and enjoy what’s left of their lives as best they can without all this. They must be totally sick of it all, but also feel like they can’t just let it drop. It really can’t be nice.
 
It seems like lots of people's negligence played their part in the tragedy, but no one person is specifically to blame. I understand why its hard to accept, but I really don't think anyone is ever going to have it laid firmly on their shoulders.
 
It's an emotive issue of course, but emotions aside, I'm not sure that anyone should be prosecuted for their negligence - not now at least.

Any dishonesty I think different though, that should be pursued, regardless of the length of time since it happened.

Many will disagree with its relevance, but the impact on many of those who are potentially culpable will have been enormous, regardless of any judicial redress.
 
The incident happened for a long list of reasons.... It just happened to be that they came together into a perfect storm... I can't agree or accept the negligence... but I understand that from a prosecution point of view it would be difficult to pin it on an individual or even a group.

What I can't deal with is the dishonesty of some of these individuals going unpunished.... What happened was bad enough but to then lie about it is unforgiveable and needs to be dealt with.
 
atypical_boro said:
Whilst I understand why they want someone held to account, after 32 years of battling, I don’t think it’s the case that we should just hold anyone we can to account. I do feel for the families, but maybe the time has come for them to try and enjoy what’s left of their lives as best they can without all this. They must be totally sick of it all, but also feel like they can’t just let it drop. It really can’t be nice.
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Hang your head in shame.
 
nowthen said:
Every police officer who changed their notes, stopped writing notes. Withheld evidence, should all be brought to account. Corrupt and sickening.
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Agree they should, but it’s proving very difficult to achieve because it seems to be such a vast and undefined list. The person who maybe should have been held mostly to blame, when you take into account the use of fencing/policing style which caused it, the “need” for that fencing, the rise of hooliganism which led to the need for high fencing and the vilification of the working classes, is Thatcher.

Hard to imagine those “pens” becoming so widely used/needed under any other Prime Minister. As well as all the policing mistakes on the day, simply would never have happened without that style of terrace. A death trap waiting to happen, surely.
 
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An undefined list due to corruption from Thatcher, the Government, Scotland Yard, South Yorkshire Police. There’s blood on the hands of many and yet so little justice. Don’t know how they can sleep at night.
I wouldn’t be surprised if “new evidence” comes to light when the people involved are long gone.
 
nowthen said:
An undefined list due to corruption from Thatcher, the Government, Scotland Yard, South Yorkshire Police. There’s blood on the hands of many and yet so little justice. Don’t know how they can sleep at night.
I wouldn’t be surprised if “new evidence” comes to light when the people involved are long gone.
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Yea probably.
 
Very apt saying “ there for the grace of God go I “ That could of been any clubs fans at that time and as mentioned above an accident waiting to happen . I seem to remember the Boro fans had a near disaster experience just before Hillsborough but I can’t remember the ground . We had a few scarey days at AP with one just months after v Leeds and obviously not forgetting the tragic Man Utd match where the wall/gate came down killing two of our own

www.gazettelive.co.uk

Recalling Boro's near miss away crush against Leeds in 1989

It was 30 years ago today that terrified away fans had to scramble over spiked fences at Ayresome Park to escape a crush
www.gazettelive.co.uk www.gazettelive.co.uk
 
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Borobarmy said:
Very apt saying “ there for the grace of God go I “ That could of been any clubs fans at that time and as mentioned above an accident waiting to happen . I seem to remember the Boro fans had a near disaster experience just before Hillsborough but I can’t remember the ground . We had a few scarey days at AP with one just months after v Leeds and obviously not forgetting the tragic Man Utd match where the wall/gate came down killing two of our own

www.gazettelive.co.uk

Recalling Boro's near miss away crush against Leeds in 1989

It was 30 years ago today that terrified away fans had to scramble over spiked fences at Ayresome Park to escape a crush
www.gazettelive.co.uk www.gazettelive.co.uk
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Or the 66/67 promotion match against Oxford.
 
Was this outcome not foreseeable from the start? If there was never a case to answer to because of a technicality, why did it go this far? I feel for the families.
 
Maple Steryup said:
Was this outcome not foreseeable from the start? If there was never a case to answer to because of a technicality, why did it go this far? I feel for the families.
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It's worth looking at the CPS statement. The original testimonies were for a non-juducial inquiry; yesterday it was said the case was thrown out because it was concluded that one wouldn't anticipate those false testimonies to be used for future judicial use. (CPS seems to suggest incredulity they could be withheld.)
 
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