How many years before Britain re-enters the EU?
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ThatFragranceGuy
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5 years minimum for all the "Brexit hasn't had a chance yet" b***ks to be proven to be untrue and covid to stop getting used as a get out of jail free card
Ex Footy Legs
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Those are internal struggles mostly whereas our economic pain coming is self inflicted by politicians with an agenda lying to its population on the risks associated with leaving the biggest trading block on our doorstep - but then, with no mandate whatsoever to leave with basically no deal means poorer living standards for the majority of Uk citizens.
Will we ever rejoin ?
If these evil cnuts get voted out within 6 months….(stopping this bonfire of eu regulations that protect us) and labour win a landslide (hinting at closer integration with the EU in their manifesto) then joining the eea or even better the customs union and single market (and the hundreds of thousands of jobs to fill in many sectors could be filled boosting the prospect of growth again) would massively help with our trading relationship and certainly help the growth we all need in our economy…
Ex Footy Legs
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This is the most likely scenario
Jedi boro
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This 100%
What ever you voted None Of us voted for no deal.
This isn’t brexit it’s madness.
As for getting brexit done !!! Tell that to the Irish.
Lefty
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Positioned close to the SM under Starmer, which should see some improvements economically. Full realignment with the SM and Customs Union will then follow as even Leave voters will see the sense. Most didn't expect to leave the SM anyway, they just had their wishes trampled over and vote stolen by the ERG wing of the Party in power when Brexit happened.
Quite whether we rejoin the EU after that I'm not certain. It makes absolute logical sense to, but there would probably need to be a commitment in principle to join the euro which might be a sticking point. That said, every so often the EU realises it needs to amend or revise or add to it's Treaties and Constitution, so in 15 years, especially if it wants the UK back (which it probably will if we have consistently been pro EU), there may be a significant revision such as Lisbon or Maastricht which will allow us to rejoin without that commitment. Despite what Brexiters claim, the EU is pragmatic and therefore has always been damn good at fudge and compromise.
Quite whether we rejoin the EU after that I'm not certain. It makes absolute logical sense to, but there would probably need to be a commitment in principle to join the euro which might be a sticking point. That said, every so often the EU realises it needs to amend or revise or add to it's Treaties and Constitution, so in 15 years, especially if it wants the UK back (which it probably will if we have consistently been pro EU), there may be a significant revision such as Lisbon or Maastricht which will allow us to rejoin without that commitment. Despite what Brexiters claim, the EU is pragmatic and therefore has always been damn good at fudge and compromise.
Disagree a bit with that, Lefty. If the present, or some variation, of this Tory government stays in power. Probably the EU won’t even entertain the idea of talking about accepting the UK back. Trust has been destroyed. Probably think we’re on the road to be coming a failing state, which we are.
There must be background unattributable talks going on with Labour and Brussels.
Be pretty stupid if there wasn’t
There must be background unattributable talks going on with Labour and Brussels.
Be pretty stupid if there wasn’t
BoroMart
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2040 at the latest, by then the bluster of 'economic benefits' will be gone, our trade will be in a sorry state, we will be following many EU rules anyway as we go back to a closer customs union and single market access agreement in about 2028, by 2040 all the old racists will have died off, labour will have run some inquiries into the whole brexit fiasco and it will be public knowledge that a small number of tories made a lot of money as our economy tanked.
BaronSmoggie
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No, it isn't. Nothing lasts forever.
festa5
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The problem is if you voted for brexit you voted for the possibility of a no deal brexit.
The ballot paper wasn't remain or leave "with a deal".
It was remain or leave "in whatever form that takes".
That was the risk anyone who voted brexit signed up to. And kindly signed the rest of us up to as well.
Jedi boro
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If agree in part but I’d argue that it was those that then voted conservative once the brexit result was known they were the real ones voting for the no deal brexit and the mess we are now inThe problem is if you voted for brexit you voted for the possibility of a no deal brexit.
The ballot paper wasn't remain or leave "with a deal".
It was remain or leave "in whatever form that takes".
That was the risk anyone who voted brexit signed up to. And kindly signed the rest of us up to as well.
Leaving the eu had support across all wings of politics even on the left it was the manner that differed.
Ex Footy Legs
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Brilliant post
HolgateCorner
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But what about Jonny Foreigner?
The gammons are all about one issue in life.
The gammons are all about one issue in life.
Ex Footy Legs
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The gammons (like my idiot brother) are in the minority, millions in this country are centrist voting and those are the millions that Dominic Cummings found his way of tapping into their psyche looking for cracks and he found them, temporarily, now the dust is settling and the reality of their lies comes to bite on peoples lives (less trade, jobs not filled & no one here who’ll do them) through lack of growth therefore higher taxes and poorer nhs, police, education….then those millions will allow the penny to drop