Huddersfield away

fmttmadmin said:
The Fans Forum have been invited to attend a meeting with Beds police and am concerned about Unreserved seating in a sell out - as I reported a couple of weeks ago - Unreserved seating means the capacity is reduced by 10%. It is pretty hard to sit with your friends when you cannot find any seats in a sold out, crammed full away end as many found out last year on a night match at Kenilworth Road.
Do we want a further reduced capacity that Unreserved Seating brings?
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No!
 
InglebyUTB said:
As usual those with the most points get the worst seats
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It can be annoying, but we always wait. We did for Sheff Utd away to make sure we were behind the goal.

I can understand not opening all sections up when away games aren't in huge demand (Cardiff/Swansea away etc), but Huddersfield will always be a sell out so I don't understand why all blocks can't be open straight away.
 
This could be the first game I miss out on (on a game we want to attend), I have over 200 points, but my son only has just over 190 (not sure how many, because there is no way to check). To put this into perspective my son has managed to get 50+ points extra over the last 2 seasons, but that might not be enough. 4 home cup games, the rest gained from away games.

He is only 10, and has had a season ticket for 5 years but that counts for nothing, he starts with 10 points less than me. I've had my ST for over 25 years but not a gold card holder, so that starts me off 10 points less than some.

I will only go with my son, so we could miss out on this game starting effectively 20 points less than gold card holders. Missing out on this game would prevent us from gaining more points.

Its almost age discrimination that will create a closed shop as you cannot get points if you don't get tickets.

Perhaps the number of starting points should be a percentage of age vs length of time as a continous season ticket holder? This would prevent the younger fans from being discriminated against.

I think my son and I might struggle to get tickets if/when we get promoted.
 
Joninho said:
This could be the first game I miss out on (on a game we want to attend), I have over 200 points, but my son only has just over 190 (not sure how many, because there is no way to check). To put this into perspective my son has managed to get 50+ points extra over the last 2 seasons, but that might not be enough. 4 home cup games, the rest gained from away games.

He is only 10, and has had a season ticket for 5 years but that counts for nothing, he starts with 10 points less than me. I've had my ST for over 25 years but not a gold card holder, so that starts me off 10 points less than some.

I will only go with my son, so we could miss out on this game starting effectively 20 points less than gold card holders. Missing out on this game would prevent us from gaining more points.

Its almost age discrimination that will create a closed shop as you cannot get points if you don't get tickets.

Perhaps the number of starting points should be a percentage of age vs length of time as a continous season ticket holder? This would prevent the younger fans from being discriminated against.

I think my son and I might struggle to get tickets if/when we get promoted.
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This is definitely a problem that needs looking at by MFC.

The fact it's a closed shop being Gold Card Holders and Chairman Drink holders, is a joke.

Riverside is 27 years old - so anyone under the age of 27 will never ever start on 160 points. That's just simply ridiculous IMO. It's just not fair on those under 27 years old.

25 consecutive years as a season ticket holder and you're still not qualified as a 'gold card holder' isn't right.

Hopefully MFC sort this out for next season.
 
Joninho said:
This could be the first game I miss out on (on a game we want to attend), I have over 200 points, but my son only has just over 190 (not sure how many, because there is no way to check). To put this into perspective my son has managed to get 50+ points extra over the last 2 seasons, but that might not be enough. 4 home cup games, the rest gained from away games.

He is only 10, and has had a season ticket for 5 years but that counts for nothing, he starts with 10 points less than me. I've had my ST for over 25 years but not a gold card holder, so that starts me off 10 points less than some.

I will only go with my son, so we could miss out on this game starting effectively 20 points less than gold card holders. Missing out on this game would prevent us from gaining more points.

Its almost age discrimination that will create a closed shop as you cannot get points if you don't get tickets.

Perhaps the number of starting points should be a percentage of age vs length of time as a continous season ticket holder? This would prevent the younger fans from being discriminated against.

I think my son and I might struggle to get tickets if/when we get promoted.
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If you or him log into his account you can see his points total. If he's not registered just create one for him with a different email than yours. I had to do that for my son.
 
Marvanelli said:
This is definitely a problem that needs looking at by MFC.

The fact it's a closed shop being Gold Card Holders and Chairman Drink holders, is a joke.

Riverside is 27 years old - so anyone under the age of 27 will never ever start on 160 points. That's just simply ridiculous IMO. It's just not fair on those under 27 years old.

25 consecutive years as a season ticket holder and you're still not qualified as a 'gold card holder' isn't right.

Hopefully MFC sort this out for next season.
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I was even on a waiting list for a season ticket, only got one when the corners were filled in. o_O
 
edinboro said:
If you or him log into his account you can see his points total. If he's not registered just create one for him with a different email than yours. I had to do that for my son.
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I'm sure we created an account when he first got the season ticket, but that was years ago and I have no clue about what the e-mail address was/is. I'm sure if I rang the ticket office I could work it out.

I tend to just go by my points total (which is wrong as I have 277 points) and I take 85 points off as I think I have managed to get 2 lots of 75 points added by mistake.
 
Joninho said:
This could be the first game I miss out on (on a game we want to attend), I have over 200 points, but my son only has just over 190 (not sure how many, because there is no way to check). To put this into perspective my son has managed to get 50+ points extra over the last 2 seasons, but that might not be enough. 4 home cup games, the rest gained from away games.

He is only 10, and has had a season ticket for 5 years but that counts for nothing, he starts with 10 points less than me. I've had my ST for over 25 years but not a gold card holder, so that starts me off 10 points less than some.

I will only go with my son, so we could miss out on this game starting effectively 20 points less than gold card holders. Missing out on this game would prevent us from gaining more points.

Its almost age discrimination that will create a closed shop as you cannot get points if you don't get tickets.

Perhaps the number of starting points should be a percentage of age vs length of time as a continous season ticket holder? This would prevent the younger fans from being discriminated against.

I think my son and I might struggle to get tickets if/when we get promoted.
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Don't give up, it's looking like the hudds tickets will reach the 190-200 band.
 
Joninho said:
This could be the first game I miss out on (on a game we want to attend), I have over 200 points, but my son only has just over 190 (not sure how many, because there is no way to check). To put this into perspective my son has managed to get 50+ points extra over the last 2 seasons, but that might not be enough. 4 home cup games, the rest gained from away games.

He is only 10, and has had a season ticket for 5 years but that counts for nothing, he starts with 10 points less than me. I've had my ST for over 25 years but not a gold card holder, so that starts me off 10 points less than some.

I will only go with my son, so we could miss out on this game starting effectively 20 points less than gold card holders. Missing out on this game would prevent us from gaining more points.

Its almost age discrimination that will create a closed shop as you cannot get points if you don't get tickets.

Perhaps the number of starting points should be a percentage of age vs length of time as a continous season ticket holder? This would prevent the younger fans from being discriminated against.

I think my son and I might struggle to get tickets if/when we get promoted.
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I absolutely sympathise. I think you'll get tickets in the 190+ but that's not really the point.

MFC have created a system that is by design a closed shop, I highlighted this when it was introduced and have ever since but the general attitude from most is "I'm alright Jack" as long as I have enough points.

They need to look into what they can do to help Under 18s, they by design of the system will have less points so if you want to go to an away game with them you either have to wait for their window and risk not going yourself or buy theirs in a separate window. However they can't sit on their own, so unreserved seating would help there. But people don't want that because they would have to reduce the allocations, however since the points system was introduced we now have people standing in your seats, standing in aisles, blocking stairways etc because they don't want to stand on their own they want to stand with their friends and family.

Younger fans are missing out on the chance to buy tickets having in some cases being to more away games than the people getting tickets, and they're missing out purely because of their age which they obviously cannot change.

The whole thing needs looking at again.

I wouldn't worry about the Premier League tickets if we ever got there, most allocations are around 3,000. With that level of points you'd be fine for pretty much every game barring Brentford, Fulham and Bournemouth.
 
Marvanelli said:
This is definitely a problem that needs looking at by MFC.

The fact it's a closed shop being Gold Card Holders and Chairman Drink holders, is a joke.

Riverside is 27 years old - so anyone under the age of 27 will never ever start on 160 points. That's just simply ridiculous IMO. It's just not fair on those under 27 years old.

25 consecutive years as a season ticket holder and you're still not qualified as a 'gold card holder' isn't right.

Hopefully MFC sort this out for next season.
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Yes there's definitely some optimising required, although it's difficult. From a selfish point of view I struggle with the concept that after 30 consecutive years as a season ticket holder I'm suddenly way down the pecking order in a loyalty system (young kids etc so not going to away games)
Equally on the flip side my son who now has a season ticket stands no chance of experiencing an away game in the run in as it's a closed shop for the likes of him.

It's a difficult balance. Long term loyalty vs short term vs age. Part of me thinks a lucky dip would be fairer but I'm sure many would disagree and be aggrieved by that.
 
wilkos_perm said:
It's a difficult balance. Long term loyalty vs short term vs age.
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Definitely. No loyalty scheme will benefit everyone, but with a few tweaks here and there (the closed shop with GC holders and Chairman drink holders) then I think this scheme is about as 'fair' as possible.

I would love to see MFC change these GC & chairman holders based on years.

5 years - Chairmans drink - starting 75 points
15 years - GC holder - Starting 80 points.

Or something along those lines? Could increase it to 20 years or 25 years - but at least it's not a closed shop.

And then those under the age of 27 actually have a goal in sight.
 
Marvanelli said:
This is definitely a problem that needs looking at by MFC.

The fact it's a closed shop being Gold Card Holders and Chairman Drink holders, is a joke.

Riverside is 27 years old - so anyone under the age of 27 will never ever start on 160 points. That's just simply ridiculous IMO. It's just not fair on those under 27 years old.

25 consecutive years as a season ticket holder and you're still not qualified as a 'gold card holder' isn't right.

Hopefully MFC sort this out for next season.
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anyone who was a season ticket holder during the Strachan years deserves a gold season ticket just purely on that basis!
 
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