Is there anyone on here who doesn't have left wing views

[TeessideCleveland]

Well that’s the how the tories get in again so that’s great.

He's a Tory

 

[r00fie1]

I'm left of center .. but .. to the Jeremy Corbyn lot - anything to the right of him is a right-wing Nazi bigot if you don't 100% agree with them

Rubbish.
My suggestion would be to read the 2019 Labour Party Manifesto:

https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/12981_19-Easy-Read-manifesto.pdf

In conjunction with this:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv62hfs6

And for balance:

The Starmer Project

Hailed as a human-rights champion and political outsider, what sort of politician is Keir Starmer really, and what mark is he making on the new politics of Labour? In The Starmer Project, Oliver Eagleton provides a careful reading of Starmer’s record at the Crown Prosecution Service and as a...

www.versobooks.com

 

[Rauko]

Rubbish.
My suggestion would be to read the 2019 Labour Party Manifesto:

https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/12981_19-Easy-Read-manifesto.pdf

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In conjunction with this:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv62hfs6

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And for balance:

The Starmer Project

Hailed as a human-rights champion and political outsider, what sort of politician is Keir Starmer really, and what mark is he making on the new politics of Labour? In The Starmer Project, Oliver Eagleton provides a careful reading of Starmer’s record at the Crown Prosecution Service and as a...

www.versobooks.com

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Here we go ..

 

[Easterside_Red]

Are you Corbyn in disguise roofie1. Great post by the way I agree with every word you have posted.

I think he may be. Corbyn never said how all that would be paid for either.

 

[NYboro]

I think he may be. Corbyn never said how all that would be paid for either.

It's not a matter of paying - it's Government investment, not a family budget.

 

[Easterside_Red]

you occasionally seem to enjoy winding some posters up.

I generally consider that to be a self-defence mechanism rather than setting out to provoke. I'm sure others will vehemently disagree with that assessment.

 

[Easterside_Red]

It's not a matter of paying - it's Government investment, not a family budget.

Right so you'll be able to tell me about any other countries in the world who adopt similar policies.

 

[NYboro]

Right so you'll be able to tell me about any other countries in the world who adopt similar policies.

The USA for one.

 

[speckyget]

Left/Right isn't the useful analysis it once was since Brexit put a horizontal line on the spectrum.

 

[Easterside_Red]

The USA for one.

Great example. It's a wonder why you're here then.

 

[Johnny Vincents Motorbike]

I'm democratic slightly left of centre, - The ones who put monetary budgets before the needs of the people, who war-monger, call for an armed militia of para-military's to be called a police force, who are content to further privatise the NHS and refuse to renationalise industries that are in the national interest, wont build council homes or back workers in struggle - call me a communist and chide me with the word 'comrade'.

in my political view they cant or refuse to see that they are complicit with selling out the working class and supporting big business, shareholders, bankers and despots - theyre complicit in ensuring the status quo continues between the rich and the poor and that ordinary folk are unable to reach their true potential by equal opportunity of access/financial support/materials and education .

those outside of the Labour Party call me socialist scum & the enemy within, and would happily hang me off a rope on the nearest lamp-post. - these people say they are not political and have little interest in democratic politics.

i am not in any political party - i am not a communist - i have only ever been in one political party and that was the labour party, i left when they removed clause 4 and havnt gone back. i have voted in every election both local and nationally since i was able to vote at age 18, its one of the most important freedoms we have on these islands, working class men and women died to ensure it - not voting or abusing the voting system is spitting in the face of their sacrifice.

 

[Keanu_Reeves]

I don't know what the answer is to making the world, or even just the UK a more equal and fairer place, and i don't think those in power want it to be either. The current system seems to revolve around most of us being poor or just getting by, that seems to be the way to keep power for these people. I do know that whoever gets into number 10 next time will do nothing to make things better for the majority of us though, that is one thing that will never change under the current political system

 

[Johnny Vincents Motorbike]

I think he may be. Corbyn never said how all that would be paid for either.

did you learn nothing from the Covid crisis - the money is always there - WHEN THE RICHEST NEED IT - the left and the socialists didn't provide this national debt- the CAPITALISTS did.

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[JackG]

suppose the left must argue with themselves on all the political threads then

They certainly do on here

 

[Colin Warnek]

I don’t consider myself left wing, but I’m not a Tory either and have never voted so.

I don’t care if I get called right wing either because I have a feeling that less and less people know what that actually means.

Hard left and hard right are two cheeks of the same àrse that meet in the centre.

If Labour don’t open themselves up to centre-right people they’ll never get elected.

 

[Frozen Horse]

I always considered this board a bastion of moderation

It's only leftist from the perspective of the right.

 

[Juninhoburger]

I'm a Lib Dem and always have been, that said i'll probably vote tactically for Labour to make sure Jacob Young loses his seat.

 

[Easterside_Red]

did you learn nothing from the Covid crisis - the money is always there - WHEN THE RICHEST NEED IT - the left and the socialists did provide this national debt- the CAPITALISTS did.

No I learned nothing. But then I'm just a political pygmy in comparison to you so what would I know about anything?

 

[Jedi boro]

I don’t consider myself left wing, but I’m not a Tory either and have never voted so.

I don’t care if I get called right wing either because I have a feeling that less and less people know what that actually means.

Hard left and hard right are two cheeks of the same àrse that meet in the centre.

If Labour don’t open themselves up to centre-right people they’ll never get elected.

that was what Blair said to conference in the late 90’s in order change anything we must first get elected and that means getting voted in the Home Counties ad well as the north east snd Welsh valleys.

 

[Millbrook]

If anyone voted to leave the EU they are also dragged out, sometimes called a thick racist gammon and all lumped with UKIP. Even though 62%? of who voted on Teesside voted to leave the EU. Many of those voting who don't at General Elections.

I get the impression the board is quite well educated and well educated football fans are often left of centre. They have come from working class backgrounds and actually see inequalities and poorer opportunities for working class young people, because they have mixed in different class backgrounds. They also see those in good positions in society are often no different to those who aren't, they are neither cleverer or work harder, but are possibly paid much more, because they present better and have the right contacts.

Sometimes it might just be because they are cleverer and work harder you know, but then it wouldn't suit your bias.