Is Tyson Fury the biggest fraud in boxing?

JustTheGent

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Looks like he's pulling out of the Usyk fight again due to an 'injury' - he's already avoided him back in the Spring. Fury is more than likely attempting to wait and target him when he's aged a couple more years or hope he gets beat so he can say he doesn't have to fight him. But can't see Usyk hanging around for that long, he's all business and wants to fight everybody now.

Usyk has upcoming mandatories against Joyce and Hrgovic coming up, but it might be worthwhile him targeting the Wilder fight to replace Fury. It would be a massive fight and his performance against Wilder could be measured in comparison to what Fury did. It would also mean that Usyk's record would be better - Wilder and Joshua x2 is better than Klitschko and Wilder x3.
 

Nano

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The whole of boxing is a fraud. It isn't a sport. There is no interest in determining in who is best, no proper organisation. The fact everything is headed through promotion companies shows what it is. It is an entertainment business not much different than wrestling except instead of fixing the fight they just put them in matches they know they are going to win then create a load of drama and hype to sell PPVs. It's just about (promoters) making money.
 

JM14

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Looks like he's pulling out of the Usyk fight again due to an 'injury' - he's already avoided him back in the Spring. Fury is more than likely attempting to wait and target him when he's aged a couple more years or hope he gets beat so he can say he doesn't have to fight him. But can't see Usyk hanging around for that long, he's all business and wants to fight everybody now.

Usyk has upcoming mandatories against Joyce and Hrgovic coming up, but it might be worthwhile him targeting the Wilder fight to replace Fury. It would be a massive fight and his performance against Wilder could be measured in comparison to what Fury did. It would also mean that Usyk's record would be better - Wilder and Joshua x2 is better than Klitschko and Wilder x3.
You do realise in a few years Fury will have aged as well right? Considering they are pretty much the same age I don’t think it’s a viable option somehow

Fury beats him easily regardless of when they fight, and gets his biggest pay day in the process, he has no reason to avoid the fight
 

B_G

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Looks like he's pulling out of the Usyk fight again due to an 'injury' - he's already avoided him back in the Spring. Fury is more than likely attempting to wait and target him when he's aged a couple more years or hope he gets beat so he can say he doesn't have to fight him. But can't see Usyk hanging around for that long, he's all business and wants to fight everybody now.

Usyk has upcoming mandatories against Joyce and Hrgovic coming up, but it might be worthwhile him targeting the Wilder fight to replace Fury. It would be a massive fight and his performance against Wilder could be measured in comparison to what Fury did. It would also mean that Usyk's record would be better - Wilder and Joshua x2 is better than Klitschko and Wilder x3.
Dubois is also a mandatory as well after his win on Sat night. He holds 3 belts so he will he working through mandatories potentially for 18 months unless they make the Fury fight.

He won't want to vacate because he's already said his aim is undisputed.
 

Johnnyweetabix

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Watching this lot makes me pine for the heavyweights of the 80s and 90s who at least made a decent spectacle of boxing and looked like I imagine a boxer should, not like Gary from the pub whose been overdoing the Parmos for the past 3 years
 

JustTheGent

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You do realise in a few years Fury will have aged as well right? Considering they are pretty much the same age I don’t think it’s a viable option somehow

Fury beats him easily regardless of when they fight, and gets his biggest pay day in the process, he has no reason to avoid the fight
Fury is around 18 months younger than Usyk. It may not seem much but it's quite significant when you consider their styles. Usyk has the best feet in the division and one of the first things to slow down is a boxer's feet. If the feet slow down - so do punches, reflexes are another thing to go as well. This is contrary to punching power and size advantage which don't really deteriorate with age. So an aging Fury would likely have a much better chance against an aging Usyk. But of course we want to see the fight when both are at or near their prime which is now.

With regards to Fury beating Usyk any time and having no reason to avoid the fight; it's simple - just have the fight. Why avoid it if there's no reason to? It doesn't make sense.

Just to note, Usyk beats Fury easily, Fury knows it and that's why he won't take the fight.
 
Fury is around 18 months younger than Usyk. It may not seem much but it's quite significant when you consider their styles. Usyk has the best feet in the division and one of the first things to slow down is a boxer's feet. If the feet slow down - so do punches, reflexes are another thing to go as well. This is contrary to punching power and size advantage which don't really deteriorate with age. So an aging Fury would likely have a much better chance against an aging Usyk. But of course we want to see the fight when both are at or near their prime which is now.

With regards to Fury beating Usyk any time and having no reason to avoid the fight; it's simple - just have the fight. Why avoid it if there's no reason to? It doesn't make sense.

Just to note, Usyk beats Fury easily, Fury knows it and that's why he won't take the fight.
Nothing quite tops an armchair boxing expert. Cracking stuff
 

Alzi

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Looks like he's pulling out of the Usyk fight again due to an 'injury' - he's already avoided him back in the Spring. Fury is more than likely attempting to wait and target him when he's aged a couple more years or hope he gets beat so he can say he doesn't have to fight him. But can't see Usyk hanging around for that long, he's all business and wants to fight everybody now.

Usyk has upcoming mandatories against Joyce and Hrgovic coming up, but it might be worthwhile him targeting the Wilder fight to replace Fury. It would be a massive fight and his performance against Wilder could be measured in comparison to what Fury did. It would also mean that Usyk's record would be better - Wilder and Joshua x2 is better than Klitschko and Wilder x3.
Link to him pulling out? Also how do you go about pulling out of a fight that hasn’t been arranged?

He is having fairly routine elbow surgery but I haven’t read anything else.
 

JM14

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Fury is around 18 months younger than Usyk. It may not seem much but it's quite significant when you consider their styles. Usyk has the best feet in the division and one of the first things to slow down is a boxer's feet. If the feet slow down - so do punches, reflexes are another thing to go as well. This is contrary to punching power and size advantage which don't really deteriorate with age. So an aging Fury would likely have a much better chance against an aging Usyk. But of course we want to see the fight when both are at or near their prime which is now.

With regards to Fury beating Usyk any time and having no reason to avoid the fight; it's simple - just have the fight. Why avoid it if there's no reason to? It doesn't make sense.

Just to note, Usyk beats Fury easily, Fury knows it and that's why he won't take the fight.
He is having surgery, the fight will happen in 2023. It’s not some mad conspiracy for an athlete to be injured at some stage and require treatment
 

Scrug

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If it’s for his hand he was complaining about it during the Chisora fight. So i wouldn’t be surprised if he genuinely was injured.
 

Centralscrutinizer

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Fury is around 18 months younger than Usyk. It may not seem much but it's quite significant when you consider their styles. Usyk has the best feet in the division and one of the first things to slow down is a boxer's feet. If the feet slow down - so do punches, reflexes are another thing to go as well. This is contrary to punching power and size advantage which don't really deteriorate with age. So an aging Fury would likely have a much better chance against an aging Usyk. But of course we want to see the fight when both are at or near their prime which is now.

With regards to Fury beating Usyk any time and having no reason to avoid the fight; it's simple - just have the fight. Why avoid it if there's no reason to? It doesn't make sense.

Just to note, Usyk beats Fury easily, Fury knows it and that's why he won't take the fight.
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Druss_The_Legend

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Out of all the heavyweight potential fights the Fury Usyk is the one I want to see happen as I would like to see a unified heavyweight division, but I think it will be a boring fight to watch with fury leaning on Usyk and using his weight advantage to tire him(or try to tire him, which AJ should of done).
The other Fury fight I want to see is obviously Fury V AJ, but I think AJ needs a couple of easy fights to get some confidence back as he seemed like a broken man after the two Usyk defeats. Another one I would like to see is Joyce Vs Wilder as I think that would be an interesting one, Joyce's chin and energy Vs Wilders power.
The heavyweight division seems to be at a bit of a standstill at the minute and needs a couple of decent big fights and not just rematches or one sided bouts to get some movement and excitement back into it.
 
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