Mayor Goldie Wilson
Well-known member
“Stability starts with a manager who wants to be here for the long term, not one who is looking for the next opportunity not long after coming through the door”
The game is becoming more and more short term, reflecting current society. Stability is a wish but you need all sides to be interested in it long term.It's a bit naive in some respects though, how many managers are really in it for the long term? Do we think Carrick won't be off if he is a success and a big job comes along? Are we loyal to our managers during bad patches?
So the fans have been bullsh1tted since March then. Wilder should have been out of the door at the end of last season if they couldn't work together this summer. A mess of their own making.
I think it was a lot deeper than thatThat's a big jump in interpretation. The implication as I see it is that CW saw us as a stepping stone to the PL. That doesn't suggest that they had difficulty working together on a personal level.
I thought the same haha.Made a point of saying that it wasn’t a “loaded” answer, which made it seem more loaded
Why? McLaren went for three other jobs while managing boro. We ended up with a cup, 2 seasons in Europe and a uefa cup final. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic in football. If we employ a manager with a reputation for fancy **** football other clubs are going to try and poach them. Managers aren't going to show loyalty to a club if the club is sacking them the second results turn.So the fans have been bullsh1tted since March then. Wilder should have been out of the door at the end of last season if they couldn't work together this summer. A mess of their own making.
look at Chelsea they change manager every season or so but still have success. The key is to develop a footballing infrastructure and philosophy which can handle managerial change without ripping up and starting again with every change. its nothing new, it goes all the way back to Shankly's boot room of changing manager but keeping continuityThe game is becoming more and more short term, reflecting current society. Stability is a wish but you need all sides to be interested in it long term.
short termism is correct if the appointment is wrong, long termism and continuity is only worthwhile if progression is identifiable. Scott just confirmed what most of us thought which is wilder was a ****.Why? McLaren went for three other jobs while managing boro. We ended up with a cup, 2 seasons in Europe and a uefa cup final. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic in football. If we employ a manager with a reputation for fancy **** football other clubs are going to try and poach them. Managers aren't going to show loyalty to a club if the club is sacking them the second results turn.
Not that wilder wasn't being an ****.
Yeah he's clearly annoyed by a lot of the stuff that's been said.I thought this wasn't there a dig in his first answer in terms of how the club 'operate' in terms of recruitment?
Yeah he didn’t waste any time in clarifying how recruitment works did heI thought this wasn't there a dig in his first answer in terms of how the club 'operate' in terms of recruitment?
He couldn't wait could he, definitely seemed rattled from some of the things that have been said by fans and in the media.He wasn't even fully asked either he just jumped on a question that had 'recruitment' in it.
I get that, but I think the club expect a little bit of loyalty and not for their manager to be actively pursuing other jobs 4 months after joining us. Allegedly.Think the 3 at the top of the table at the club are deluded if they think we aren't a stepping stone for 'managers', 'head coaches' and players. We are currently and historically have been a top third second tier team, anyone with ambition will want to go as high in the game as they can. If that coincides with bringing some success to our club and taking us a step further then it should be embraced.