NorthumberlandBoro
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Millwall get the green light for a 999-year lease for The Den, a 34,000-seat stadium expansion and new homes in its surrounding area.
Millwall to expand the Den
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NorthumberlandBoro
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It'll be bigger than the Riverside.
Unless they can find 15,000 tourists they'll never fill it.
Unless they can find 15,000 tourists they'll never fill it.
Nobby_Barnes
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You mean selling out every week, qualifying for Europe and winning a trophy
How awful.....
parmoboy
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I was more referring to old school West Ham fans who say that the atmosphere hasn't been the same since they left Upton Park.You mean selling out every week, qualifying for Europe and winning a trophy
How awful.....
NorthumberlandBoro
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It could kill the atmosphere, with large swathes of empty seats.
It usually pretty lively. I would say the current ground is the right size.
It usually pretty lively. I would say the current ground is the right size.
masquesmog
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The whole area is being redeveloped, and this is the last piece I think. Millwall have just been waiting for approval to develop the ground and area around it. Lewisham owns the land, and are committed to keeping the club in the area. Let's see if it works out for them.
The whole area is being redeveloped, and this is the last piece I think. Millwall have just been waiting for approval to develop the ground and area around it. Lewisham owns the land, and are committed to keeping the club in the area. Let's see if it works out for them.
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exeterboro
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I've got into the habit of watching matchday vlogs on YouTube, Millwall are definitely a tourist club, which I find quite funny, Sunderland are as well.
Norman_Conquest
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But couldn't that be said about any new stadium?
Those who stood on the Holgate at Ayersome will tell you the atmosphere was much better, but I would take the Riverside any day for the facilities and not having to go in the Holgate toilets. That was an experience on its own.
Frozen Horse
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Seems a bit big for Millwall, but there's a lot of nonsense talked about empty seats and full houses
The Riverside can bounce with 13k inside it and be dead when it's sold out.
I'd say the perfect sized stadium is one that sells out 3-4 times a season. If it's more often than that, you're turning fans away too often.
On that basis, I think this is a bit too ambitious if Millwall.
The Riverside can bounce with 13k inside it and be dead when it's sold out.
I'd say the perfect sized stadium is one that sells out 3-4 times a season. If it's more often than that, you're turning fans away too often.
On that basis, I think this is a bit too ambitious if Millwall.
Borobuddah
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I dunno if you were at our first game there, but the atmosphere wound back in time way before they left UP, bottles, coins thrown during the game and pitched fight after!
Johngannonsunderpants
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The locals don't like it when you tell them how nice the area is since it's gentrification and how lovely it was to quaff fine wines in the local area before the game. Some of them became quite upset.
I can't see Millwall ever being much more than what they've always been a largely working class club, WHU always had a bit of glamour and of course won the world cup. Millwall have Charlton and Palace next door both potentially bigger or already bigger in the case of CP.
NorthumberlandBoro
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Yes, I remember ordering mashed avocado on granary bread at the cafe near the ground, and getting some awfully rude reactions. Peasants.
NorthumberlandBoro
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It's a strange one.
Similar to Birmingham fans thinking they are going to fill a new 60k stadium.
They got 17k against us.
BoroMart
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I've just checked Millwall haven't averaged more than 20,000 in a season since 1951/52....they'll need to get those multi-coloured seats so it doesn't look empty on TV.
Ignoring the covid year, they've averaged 10,862 since moving to the New Den, that's about 54% capacity
Ignoring the covid year, they've averaged 10,862 since moving to the New Den, that's about 54% capacity
exeterboro
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To be fair in our eyes Boro are probably the greatest team the world has ever seen ( by far) but I'm not sure that the people who suggested the 60k stadium had us in mind as the opposition on cold midweek night that they might be at some point be getting 60k in . But as it's the 2 nd city they could be hoping to get a whole raft of touring musical names to play there in the summer, and if the FA ever start thinking of fans again they might play one of the FA cup semis there as well on one of the lesser finals of a European trophy. Then there is American football and so on.Im sure Brum with a spanking new stadium and a bit of movement up the leagues could at least get 30-40,000 crowds, or at least until the novelty has worn off.It's a strange one.
Similar to Birmingham fans thinking they are going to fill a new 60k stadium.
They got 17k against us.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat
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Ayresome was bouncing under Rioch with the whole of the East End closed.
Empty seats don't kill the atmosphere, poor football does.