Cardiffdaffs
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Is that a middle aged bald head convention? Look at that room full of diversity.
Off to see Neil Warnock tonight
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Erimus74
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Class, glad to say I was part of that
Erimus74
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I could imagine the doc been entertaining
Cardiffdaffs
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Tommy Doc was the consummate football raconteur only ever equalled by Burnley's Paul Fletcher who gave one of the funniest anecdotes of the time Burnley went to Anfield and won.
Doc's famous one liner from bis shows was the line " I've had more clubs than Jack Nicklaus". I guess NW can almost equal him?
Erimus74
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Erimus74
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Queues for the gents were long
Jonny Ingbar
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He's an entertaining fella, but then I think he courts the media and loves the attention. Those things will have made for a good night though.
Right man at the right time for us, but only because we were in a hole.
Like him but I don't think his methods are commensurate with modern football.
Right man at the right time for us, but only because we were in a hole.
Like him but I don't think his methods are commensurate with modern football.
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chickenrunner
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Thankfully we replaced him with that football visionary Chris Wilder with his overlapping centre halves and, as it turned out, eff all else.
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Alan_Breck
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I was once at a Gentleman's Smoker over in the North West, Alan Ball was the guest speaker and I've never laughed so much in my life but he didn't tell one joke. The evening consisted of tales mainly from the 1966 World Cup squad characters with Sir Alf providing much of the mirth. Ball was a great storyteller, footballer and gentleman and like most of the other members of that squad, born too soon. They weren't able to reap the riches, accolades and rewards which other far less talented footballers enjoy today.
#UTB
#UTB
Normanby_Red
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I was there last night as well. Class night. I loved how he said "thank f*ck he's gone" about Wilder.
He said that the day after the sacking, he went to the training ground to clear his office and was refused entry because Kieran Scott was doing a press conference with Wilder. Gibson has apologized to him since so sounds like they've kissed and made up.
He said something about Kieran Scott, think it was something like "he wouldn't look me in the eye". Not sure what the crack is there but obviously he wasn't a fan of him.
He also said that he nearly went to Barnsley some time after leaving us to try keep them up but the move didn't come off, and now he's properly retired.
Absolutely top bloke, I was gutted when we sacked him because I thought we'd have picked up form and gone on a run under him. I remember watching the game v West Brom in The Stockton (I think) in Redcar and we were unlucky not to win. Went over the road to some other pub and saw the news break on SSN. Did think Wilder would do well with us too but we all know how that ended...
He said that the day after the sacking, he went to the training ground to clear his office and was refused entry because Kieran Scott was doing a press conference with Wilder. Gibson has apologized to him since so sounds like they've kissed and made up.
He said something about Kieran Scott, think it was something like "he wouldn't look me in the eye". Not sure what the crack is there but obviously he wasn't a fan of him.
He also said that he nearly went to Barnsley some time after leaving us to try keep them up but the move didn't come off, and now he's properly retired.
Absolutely top bloke, I was gutted when we sacked him because I thought we'd have picked up form and gone on a run under him. I remember watching the game v West Brom in The Stockton (I think) in Redcar and we were unlucky not to win. Went over the road to some other pub and saw the news break on SSN. Did think Wilder would do well with us too but we all know how that ended...
This article somehow made me think of you taking your daughter to meet Neil Warnock - Kim Jong Un inspects ballistic missile with daughter
Erimus74
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Haha, nice one JackG, I will take that in a sort of complimentary way
She did take me mind, picked me up & introduced me to the man himself
Erimus74
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A couple of good cup wins, 9 home wins on the bounce, I think it was mentioned & Wilder still put a team together that was heading for the 1st division
Erimus74
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Cheers exiledinboro, I was fortunate to be invited to Wilders Q&A event before the start of the season
I met him at the interval, got mine & my grandaughters Marseille tickets signed, her 1st Boro game, shook his hand & wished him all the best, he was our manager, I wasnt his biggest fan but it benefitted us all if he was successful
He hasnt had a colourful career as Neil has, I didnt want him to manage us, as I did Neil, so no, not really interested if im honest
Erimus74
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Good post, about sums it up too
Jonny Ingbar
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I don't agree with that at all, Wilders approach was light years ahead of Warnock's, both on and off the pitch.Thankfully we replaced him with that football visionary Chris Wilder with his overlapping centre halves and, as it turned out, eff all else.
Until the relationship between him and the club broke down we looked a proper team. The 'overlapping centre halves' label is just that really, it was only a small part of his approach, which was far better organised and far more sophisticated than anything Warnock favoured.
Our analytics was infinitely better, in fact Warnock used hardly any data, plus we were much fitter and picked up far fewer injuries too.
I don't believe for a second that Wilders issue was his inability to set up a team, rather his very poor judgement, his lack of long term commitment to us and consequently his poor management of players. His record has been more consistently successful than Warnock's, plus he's had success in the PL - NW hasn't.
Ironically, Wilder's failings are Warnock's strengths - he was popular with the players, more so the amount of time off they'd be given.
chickenrunner
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The way Wilder wanted to play isn't inherently flawed but I question whether we had the players to play it. Additionally I think it's very much a plan that requires supreme confidence and belief and once that is damaged you're toast. At that point some tactical flexibility was required to recover the situation and Wilder had none he simply kept changing personnel within the same system whilst pursuing a 'beatings will continue until morale improves' approach to man management which did nothing for player confidence.
It appears that once opponents identify the weak spots in his system/team he either can't or won't change things tactically. This was levelled at him by Sheff Utd. fans in their disastrous 2nd Prem season. As such he appears to be deeply flawed as a manager.
On top of all that he comes across, in my working experience, as an absolutely typical, opinionated West/South Yorkshire bell end.
It appears that once opponents identify the weak spots in his system/team he either can't or won't change things tactically. This was levelled at him by Sheff Utd. fans in their disastrous 2nd Prem season. As such he appears to be deeply flawed as a manager.
On top of all that he comes across, in my working experience, as an absolutely typical, opinionated West/South Yorkshire bell end.