Post-Covid Britain?

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SmogontheMarsh

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Considering previous global disasters:-

Will be like the post 2008 financial collapse where austerity was the answer, and the poor and disadvantaged paid for the sins of the bankers, while the rich benefitted or.....

Will it be like post first world war where the land fit for heroes promised was not forthcoming. The rich and those who had "a good war" enjoyed the roaring 20s while those who came back damaged where damned and unemployed, and those who lost the men in the family where left unhelped. Followed by the general strike, and later the Depression, leading to a rise in populist government and ultimately WW2. Or....

Will it be like post WW2, were the concentration was on rebuilding the nation, concentrating on building from the bottom, introducing the welfare state, NHS, a housing programme not seen since, and the creation of a fairer education system, resulting in relative general prosperity for nearly three decades.

I know what I would like to see, for the benefit of my grandchildren and great-grandchildren, but given Johnson is already eulogising a new "Roaring Twenties" I have little or no hope.

Oh for an Attlee, Bevan, or Beveridge in power now.
 
We know who will end up paying for it and how little accountability there will be for the funnelling of public funds into the hands of the private sector.
The thing that saddens me most is that large swathes of the electorate will have already resigned themselves to paying extra and won't ever question things like the cost of track and trace or the untendered contracts handed out to people who were wholly unqualified or unsuitable to provide the services they were offering.
If we could honestly look into the mirror that has been held up to the modern, capitalist dogma then we might have a chance of making positive changes, but I think what the reflection holds is too much for too many to take on board and it'll be ignored as it doesn't impact on them directly.
 
dooderooni said:
We know who will end up paying for it and how little accountability there will be for the funnelling of public funds into the hands of the private sector.
The thing that saddens me most is that large swathes of the electorate will have already resigned themselves to paying extra and won't ever question things like the cost of track and trace or the untendered contracts handed out to people who were wholly unqualified or unsuitable to provide the services they were offering.
If we could honestly look into the mirror that has been held up to the modern, capitalist dogma then we might have a chance of making positive changes, but I think what the reflection holds is too much for too many to take on board and it'll be ignored as it doesn't impact on them directly.
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were wholly unqualified or unsuitable to provide the services they were offering.
are you crazy? some were qualified as pub landlord ex-neighbours of ministers. what more would you like? If you cant trust an ex-publican with a multi-million pound PPE contract without any experience, in the midst of a national emergency then who could you trust?
 
For years I felt like the fella in 'invasion of the bodysnatchers'. Screaming at friends & family (I was very popular company at dinner parties) for them to 'open their eyes'. Years and years of lies, neglect, cronyism, war crimes but people just refuse to see. It actually made me quite ill. We have a culture where people point the blame 10 years after the fact. Look at Bliar - people now talk about how wrong iraq was but, at the time, they just pretended it wasnt happening. The exact same thing will happen with brexit and this moron we have as PM now. We seem to think that naming and shaming in the future somehow puts things right rather than confronting issues and demanding justice in the here and now.
 
SmogontheMarsh said:
Considering previous global disasters:-

Will be like the post 2008 financial collapse where austerity was the answer, and the poor and disadvantaged paid for the sins of the bankers, while the rich benefitted or.....

Will it be like post first world war where the land fit for heroes promised was not forthcoming. The rich and those who had "a good war" enjoyed the roaring 20s while those who came back damaged where damned and unemployed, and those who lost the men in the family where left unhelped. Followed by the general strike, and later the Depression, leading to a rise in populist government and ultimately WW2. Or....

Will it be like post WW2, were the concentration was on rebuilding the nation, concentrating on building from the bottom, introducing the welfare state, NHS, a housing programme not seen since, and the creation of a fairer education system, resulting in relative general prosperity for nearly three decades.

I know what I would like to see, for the benefit of my grandchildren and great-grandchildren, but given Johnson is already eulogising a new "Roaring Twenties" I have little or no hope.

Oh for an Attlee, Bevan, or Beveridge in power now.
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The congratulations and gesture of appreciation for the NHS was a 1% pay rise. A total insult. But in Tory land it is seen as a noble and sizeable gesture.
 
I don't think people grasp the gravity of the situation currently, we haven't even begun to see the true reality of the economic fall out from lockdown policy.
 
The aftermath of the great plague was a boom time for the working man of England and a nightmare for wealthy landowners. Maybe the same will happen again
 
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