There wasn't patronizing admin in those days either.
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festa5
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Just a bit of craic isn't it? Thought you loved all that?There wasn't patronizing admin in those days either.
Otto42
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I had forgotten about Briggsy. Wonder if he’s still around in another guise. Some great posters lost over the years or perhaps I’ve been on far too long!
sherlock
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It’s a message board. People come and people go.
Colgates_shaving_foam
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Perfect example of the 'free speech' brigade having an incredibly thin skin when the free speech is aimed back at them.
mercury_redstone7
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Briggsy made a brief appearance on the old board toward the end. There's lots of posters who were hilariously funny at times that don't bother anymore. I think the board is a much nicer place over the last few months especially, but it just hasnt got the comedians
Capybara
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Andy_W
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The point is they don't post, they probably just lurk.
People don't say they're Tory on here as the vast majority of them have no good reasons to back up why they would vote that way. Most people on here are earning less than 100k I expect, and living in a fairly poor area like Teesside. The only excuse they have to vote that way is that they've been duped (largely newspapers, or people regurgitating that on facebook), but nobody likes to admit that.
It's a Boro message board, largely filled with working class I expect, living in a poor area (even the nicer areas are not as well off as they think), so the only party which is likely to have their back is Labour, no matter what the press (right wing) may lead them to believe.
Lemmy_kilmister
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If only Catflaporama was still in use.
There was gold in them thar threads....
There was gold in them thar threads....
Agree, up to a point. People ask what 'woke' means and it essentially boils down to any belief that causes instinctive discomfort in a lot of people - anti-monarchism, transgender rights, immigration from (especially Muslim) countries - which the Right believes it can leverage in its ongoing culture war. We are talking about emotions, not evidence-based argument, which is why the views of people motivated by vague anti-woke attitudes are easily demolished by smarter folk - which makes the loser even more embittered and entrenched. The internet, and modern media in general, facilitates that entrenchment par excellence. Once you've sniffed the entrance to the rabbit-hole and it smells tasty, there's no going back. And the more people mock you for it, the more slavering you become.
With the death of conformist aspirations such as 'the property-owning democracy' (home ownership has declined from around 70% to 60% in the last decade or so), the American Dream (as the rust belt grew in ironic scorn), and of course the latest incarnation 'Levelling Up' , culture war/anti woke/nativist narratives are the only game in town for the Right.
The most important book I have read in the last few years is The Age of Anger by Pankaj Mishra, which traces the intellectual roots of 'resentiment' (which Nietzsche, I think, described as 'the desire for hateful revenge'). First identified by Rousseau, resentiment is a natural by-product of the 'self-creating' myth of capitalism (typified by the American Dream trope). Once, from the French Revolution onwards, we'd freed ourselves from God and 'knowing one's place', we were all 'free' to thrive and prosper as a result of our own efforts. But of course it doesn't work like that: wealth and privilege beget the same, the masses are eternally locked out of the real places of wealth and power, and of course big countries dominate poorer/smaller ones in similar fashion. For a few decades, as developed Western economies found new 'globalised' markets, wages and living standards rose (aided by progressive taxation). The oil crisis of 1973 killed rising real wages across the West but expanding credit, fuelled by the petro-dollars flooding into Western banks, kept the capitalist balls in the air until the 2008 financial crash. The political fallout from the resulting decline powered Trump, Brexit and Culture War narratives across the globe, especially the developing world, where resentiment has always been keener, bound up as it was with anti-colonialism - witness how CCP propaganda still references China's 'century of humiliation'.
Just as a German 'nation' belittled by Napoleonic conquer, was gripped by 'sturm und drang' nativism in the 1800s, eventually giving rise to Prussian militarism and thence to fascism after the ultimate humiliation of Versailles. so humiliation is leveraged by right-wing elites now: the anti-gay, anti immigrant, anti-'permissive West' Catholic/Orthodox nationalisms of Putin and Orban; the anti-Muslim Hindu nationalism of Modi.
It's vital, in my opinion, that we see the culture war in global terms, because that is exactly how the right sees it. That is why Trump's guru Steve Bannon has his former seminary in Italy, dedicated to training up future European/Western cadres of high-level politicians and bureaucrats. For some, like Bannon and Orban, the culture war is about the need for Catholic orthodoxies to prevail (against the 'socialistic' Liberation Theology tendencies of the current Pope); for others, like Peter Thiel or Elon Musk the culture war sustains their urge for a vague Social Darwinism.
For those on the left, the culture war is the Right's final great battle against genuine human liberty and emancipation.
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newyddion
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is there a tory football message board?
Hap
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Probably Chelsea!
Nero
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Plenty of Tories on FMTTM I would imagine. Just few will dare admit it after 14 disastrous years of Tory Government.
newyddion
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Fair play to them.. I’m sure they had their reasons for voting for who they thought was best. They most likely thought it would be better for themselves and their family to do so. Politicians are a right bunch of turds the lot of them. You can hardly fault someone for picking out ‘the wrong turd’ - it’s the responsibility of the members of parliament to act in an honourable way in the best interest of the general public. Represent their wants snd needs to the best of their abilities.
Quicksilvera
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Yes this one newy, look at the racist bile they post.
Reads like a Tory to me.
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newyddion
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Seems a lot more politically orientated compared to here.. and references here quite a bit which is pretty strange.
That’s another level! a message board where the subject is another message board. still.. not as bad as oneboro
Rofesleg
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Probably more to do with the hassle they would get rather than being embarrassed.
They can be a Tory and still be unhappy with how this government has performed and decisions they have made. I reckon the majority do feel that way but are still tories at heart and will always vote tory.
Likewise, I'm sure there are Labour supporters on here who weren't happy with Callaghan's government, or the way the Blair/Brown government ended. Or the way the party has performed as opposition for the last 13 years. But they are still Labour at heart and will always vote Labour.
Unless they are openly looking for confrontation people should be able to discuss it reasonably and without insults.
