Prince Harry

BoroMart said:
Personally I find putting any pressure on children to do that is abhorrent. My kids saw their mum die when they were 7 and 10, and I did everything I could to make sure they had zero responsibility, zero attention, to ease it as much as possible......that's what a proper Dad, granparent, uncle would do.
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I don't believe Philip was putting pressure on them by telling them he would walk with them. I imagine it was more a case of reassuring them that ultimately it would be their decision but if they do choose to walk he would be there to support them.
 
Glover_elbow said:
That's not what I am saying at all I merely pointing out that if you are going to preach about environmental maters for instance you shouldn't use a range rover as your everyday vehicle or travel by air as excessively as they do. Their carbon footprint will much greater than 95% of people the planet including you and I.
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We don't know what effort he puts in to offset, does he plant trees and pay for some woods to be preserved, does he raise awareness and money for green issues, I don't know? But all the facts need to be gathered not just one. Like everyone else, the guy is on a steep learning curve of life, and is looking at better ways to live his life all the time. There are far worse people in life to aim your ire at, and someone doesn't need to be perfect to get a good message out there.

Glover_elbow said:
The same as if your going to preech about poverty like Bono you don't hide evade tax the way U2 do. It's completely hypocritical to preech about one thing and do something different by your own actions especially if it's done from a place of privilege.
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I agree, tax evasion is a clear tactic from some, that's greed and entitlement. It's a bit more complicated with green issues, if Harry lends his time to green initiatives and is reducing his own expenditure all the time, then that shouldn't entirely preclude him from speaking out, he should do more though.

Even Greta Thunberg was attacked for not being perfect, she eventually went across the atlantic in a carbon neutral boat just to fight the 'flew to UN, but complains about environment' comments. No one is saying be perfect, people like Harry are saying reduce your costs and he has reduced his.
 
Glover_elbow said:
I couldn't give a toss about his wealth or him personally I don't like any of the royals. What I hate more and I do hate is celebrities preeching about morality and life choices.
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So who should preach about wanting a better world? No one? Nobodies? Poiticians? citizens? Or should we just not draw attention to problems with our lifestyles and impacts? I'm hearing lots of negativity at individuals, but no answers to solving anything from you...what are your answers to environment issues, should we just accept it and not have anyone speak out about it, thus giving free reign to the sociopaths of the world to keep destroying it?
 
parmoboy said:
I don't believe Philip was putting pressure on them by telling them he would walk with them. I imagine it was more a case of reassuring them that ultimately it would be their decision but if they do choose to walk he would be there to support them.
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Whoever put pressure on them to do it, be it Philip, Charles, or any other member of the royal household are disgraceful. It's unnatural to expect a child to do that, particularly in public and it didn't happen by accident, someone decided that it should happen and other people supported that decision. Not enough people in that family protected those kids by keeping them out of the limelight, that's a clear fact.

Philip could quite easily have put his foot down and said, "No, it's cruel, let him sit with his Dad in the cathedral", he could have said that just as easily as whatever he did say, so lets not play the Philip the hero grandad story on this one.
 
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BoroMart said:
Whoever put pressure on them to do it, be it Philip, Charles, or any other member of the royal household are disgraceful. It's unnatural to expect a child to do that, particularly in public and it didn't happen by accident, someone decided that it should happen and other people supported that decision. Not enough people in that family protected those kids by keeping them out of the limelight, that's a clear fact.

Philip could quite easily have put his foot down and said, "No, it's cruel, let him sit with his Dad in the cathedral", he could have said that just as easily as whatever he did say, so lets not play the Philip the hero grandad story on this one.
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It's not about trying to paint him as a hero, I'm merely making the point that I feel he showed the princes support by reassuring them that he'd be there with them if they did decide to do it.

As for your comment regarding Philip putting his foot down. How do you know he didn't disprove of it and voice his opinion to others, whilst also letting the boys know that ultimately it would be their decision and he'd support them either way?
 
HarryVegas said:
This. They're people I don't know, like every other person I haven't met. I just don't follow the circus. When you switch off the news and stop reading the toxic waste that passes for our print media, life becomes instantly happier.
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This thread brings to mind A Clockwork Orange, the Ludovico technique and the helpless and hopeless Alex himself. Oh my brother.

I now have visions of fellow droogs on here, like Alex, being strapped to a chair, wires attached to head and body, eyes clamped wide
open unable to turn their heads away from viddying the horrorshow media which is forced upon them, whilst being administered copious
amounts of drugs which makes them feel sick, revolted and a massive pain in the gulliver. So powerful that they consider tollchocking
themselves. Oh my brother.

For the droogs on here that would be angered or sickened at the very thought of viddying such horrorshows, I recommend the use of
something that Alex didn't have access to.

The remote control, oh my brothers.

There in your hand with the slight touch of a button, oh my brothers, you will find true happiness.

For Bogs sake, fellow droogs, it really is that simple.

Viddy well dear brothers, viddy well.
 
Seems that my post above went over more heads than I thought. :D

Anyhow, I won't criticise any man for doing what he thinks is for the better for his wife and kids.

We will probably never know if there were racist remarks or whispers amongst the family regarding Meghan.

If there were, then we should be proud of him and his stance and decisions.

Good luck to them as far as I'm concerned.
 
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