Prince Harry

r00fie1 said:
Trotsky asserted:
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Im sure Konrad had this in mind, in order to highlight the dichotomy between those expressing concern about the familial spoutings of a medieval legacy and their perceived presentation by the Establishment mouthpieces - notably the British Bulshippers Corporation and Murdoch`s dogs [reference there to Pavlov].
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Sorry that's a bit too much for me to take in on a Friday night Roofie.
 
Ingleby_Flash said:
Hi BoroFur, this isn’t the thread or the time, but I’d love to debate the swearing thing at some point. It’s an interesting development of language, and I know from experience that in the higher echelons of education and industry it’s common to use and certainly not a sign of limited vocabulary.

I know Rob is very very anti, yet it is common parlance. Language developes and what at one time is offensive is later acceptable and vice versa. The OP portrays anger, his use of bad language portrays that, it may or may not betray a limited vocabulary I dont know, but it gets to his point, which is effective.

I swear like f*ck having worked for years in engineering and I rarely find it offensive.
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I don't really know the demographic of this board Ingleby. I have worked in Engineering and Construction for over 35 years and as I've got older I've realised that I don't need to swear to get my point across or to express myself. I hear it now in the younger generation, it just rolls off the tongue so easily. In fact I shudder at the tone and frequency of their bad language. That's why I equate it with having a limited vocabulary. Perhaps I am now too old and sensitive in that respect but I really don't see the reasoning for using such bad language in everyday situations.
 
r00fie1 said:
Trotsky asserted:
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Im sure Konrad had this in mind, in order to highlight the dichotomy between those expressing concern about the familial spoutings of a medieval legacy and their perceived presentation by the Establishment mouthpieces - notably the British Bulshippers Corporation and Murdoch`s dogs [reference there to Pavlov].
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"You are totally fcuked Trotsky" - Joseph Stalin (maybe)
 
What people don’t like is that he is milking the cow, in exactly the same way the rest of his family do, but he’s doing it at their expense, which none of them have done before, and without all the ridiculous protocols they have to follow. Fair play to him if you ask me.

Had to happen eventually. The concept is definitely living on borrowed time.
 
r00fie1 said:
Trotsky asserted:
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Im sure Konrad had this in mind, in order to highlight the dichotomy between those expressing concern about the familial spoutings of a medieval legacy and their perceived presentation by the Establishment mouthpieces - notably the British Bulshippers Corporation and Murdoch`s dogs [reference there to Pavlov].
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BoroMart said:
do you want to give an example of what he has said that so enrages you?
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He does not enrage me he is just simply a niggling anoyance with his epiphany of mental health wisdom and wellness promotion we can't escape from in the media.
BoroMart said:
I guess if you don't want professional moralisers then you want all the royals to stop doing any kind of charity support then? Because you know using your status for helping others is such a terrible thing to some people.
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No i don't like moralisers they tend to be hypocrites. You could call it the Bono effect preaching at others to make better lifestyle choices from place of extreme wealth and comfort.
Like Poor Megan last year complaining about how tough things are for her in front of impoverished African children. I just can't see any benefit to the wider public from their virtuous media outpourings how is it supposed to help
 
Glover_elbow said:
He does not enrage me he is just simply a niggling anoyance with his epiphany of mental health wisdom and wellness promotion we can't escape from in the media.
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so no examples then?

Glover_elbow said:
No i don't like moralisers they tend to be hypocrites.
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So no one should ever do any good or expect people to do better?

If the argument is that you can't want a better world because your rich, then that simply doesn't wash, that is effectively saying only poor people can want a better world and try and make a difference, even though it tends to be the rich with access to influence. It's a strange view. It's akin to the argument against 'champagne socialists', but the reality is if you have empathy you have it, regardless of how much money you have or don't have.

The guy actually gave up a shed load of wealth, more than you or I could imagine for control over his own life, he should be credited for that, even if you don't like the way he controls it, but that's for him to justify to himself not you or I since we don't pay for him anymore.
 
coluka said:
I guess it all depends on whether you really believe what is said.

It must be a nightmare living in that bubble and I can well understand why Harry of all of them would want out, fair enough. He must have had a fairly hard, unloving upbringing trying to cope with the loss of his mum amidst the way they live. I also get his anger at the public gawping at the funeral cortege too. However, he was one of many hundreds if not thousands that lost their mum while young that year and frankly every year before and since.

I really do not buy Meghan‘s claim that she wanted to kill herself AND the only thing that stopped her was the thought of poor Harry suffering again.... really? Was her baby on the way or born at this time? If it was, then what about him? Obviously I don’t know, nobody but Meghan herself knows, not even Harry can know for sure if she meant it, she is an accomplished actor after all. Meghan has seemingly told a few white lies along the way that have been debunked, even her own father debunked a few. It is possible she has manipulated things along the way and Harry, finally having found the love he missed as a child is blind to it. It is possible she meant it, but it seems far fetched on what we appear to know.

They left London to escape being in the spotlight, it was bringing all the Trauma poor Harry undoubtedly suffered through the loss of his mum. However, now, he feared it would happen to Meghan, really? Yet here they both are, selling their souls to Oprah, Netflix and anyone who will listen, for cash. The fact they are doing so shows is all about them for me. In my opinion it is all about the ££££ and not about their mental health or a feeling of baring their soul to help others deal with their lives, in some sort of deep altruistic way.
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There’s a difference between doing interviews/ studio controlled shows & being chased every walking minute by the paparazzi.
 
Laughing said:
This is an interesting thread. Not sure why Harry's action polarise so many people who don't care. For my part I don't care. Hope the couple can grab some happiness along the way.
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This. They're people I don't know, like every other person I haven't met. I just don't follow the circus. When you switch off the news and stop reading the toxic waste that passes for our print media, life becomes instantly happier.
 
BoroMart said:
so no examples then?


So no one should ever do any good or expect people to do better?
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BoroMart said:
If the argument is that you can't want a better world because your rich, then that simply doesn't wash, that is effectively saying only poor people can want a better world and try and make a difference, even though it tends to be the rich with access to influence. It's a strange view. It's akin to the argument against 'champagne socialists', but the reality is if you have empathy you have it, regardless of how much money you have or don't have
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That's not what I am saying at all I merely pointing out that if you are going to preach about environmental maters for instance you shouldn't use a range rover as your everyday vehicle or travel by air as excessively as they do. Their carbon footprint will much greater than 95% of people the planet including you and I.
The same as if your going to preech about poverty like Bono you don't hide evade tax the way U2 do. It's completely hypocritical to preech about one thing and do something different by your own actions especially if it's done from a place of privilege.
BoroMart said:
The guy actually gave up a shed load of wealth, more than you or I could imagine for control over his own life, he should be credited for that, even if you don't like the way he controls it, but that's for him to justify to himself not you or I since we don't pay for him anymore.
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I couldn't give a toss about his wealth or him personally I don't like any of the royals. What I hate more and I do hate is celebrities preeching about morality and life choices.
 
Humpty said:
There’s a difference between doing interviews/ studio controlled shows & being chased every walking minute by the paparazzi.
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Yes I agree, you usually get ££££ for the studio controlled ones. Every Royal is followed by Paparazzi when they step out, just like ‘celebs’ Meghan will be used to it. Royals do not get the chance to live a normal childhood sadly, most celebs do though In fairness.

Losing your mum so young is devastating, no doubt about it and Charles does not strike me as a loving hands on dad. As much as I feel for Harry, I am concerned he may be being manipulated through blind love. His actions are not those of someone wanting a quiet life or a life of service for altruistic reasons imho. Most people who want the monarchy gone wont agree, but that will more likely be to do with prejudice rather than looking at the situation with an open mind. Harry and Meghan have every right to act as they are, but in doing so become fair game to be judged. They can’t have their cake and eat it unfortunately.
 
MFP said:
In what way are they "free" of it? Since leaving the Royal family they've done nothing but court publicity and attention at every turn. Moaning and complaining about hard their lives are and peddling lies at a time when the globe is in the midst of a pandemic at the cost of millions of lives.
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That's only relevant to the morons who are being fed the drivel by the media. Just turn it off, who in their right mind wants to listen to the ramblings of a nutcase family?
 
Glover_elbow said:
You could call it the Bono effect preaching at others to make better lifestyle choices from place of extreme wealth and comfort.
Like Poor Megan last year complaining about how tough things are for her in front of impoverished African children. I just can't see any benefit to the wider public from their virtuous media outpourings how is it supposed to help
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This is absolutely right.
 
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