Realistic expectations of England’s chances

[Nero]

Looking at the history of the tournament Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal and the old USSR are the only countries to have reached the final multiple times.

Only Greece and the Netherlands are only time winners (both only appearing in one final too).

England are up against it in terms of reaching the latter stages let alone final.

 

[allied_assault]

Everyone seems to know the score....

 

[Jedi boro]

Well, it’s not the World Cup. Greece didn’t have any top drawer players full stop when they won this thing…..

No but they had a German tactical
Mastermind as manager. That’s why they won.

 

[Jostler]

No but they had a German tactical
Mastermind as manager. That’s why they won.

Yes but did they have the corner love train?

 

[atypical_boro]

No but they had a German tactical
Mastermind as manager. That’s why they won.

Well, certainly fair to say that towards the end of his career he achieved some fantastic stuff.

Nowadays, he wouldn't have ended up managing Greece, a Premier League team would have thrown buckets of cash at him by now.

 

[Heam44]

I think we’ll make it to the final.

And win it!!

 

[BoroMart]

That weather weirdly did seem to help and lift the mood.

it made it a great competition to watch for us, doubt it helped the players sat in Russia much though

 

[atypical_boro]

it made it a great competition to watch for us, doubt it helped the players sat in Russia much though

I dunno, you wouldn't think so, but lots of players have said they pick up on a lot of the 'mood' back home and it can affect their overall mindset.

 

[Abel Tasman]

I think we’ll make it to the final.

And win it!!

Yes. That’s the spirit. Said in your best Partridge voice too

 

[BoroMart]

Yes. That’s the spirit. Said in your best Partridge voice too

I don't think we will win it.....but it's far from beyond the realms of possibility, particularly if Maguire gets fit for the knockout stages.

 

[UTB70]

Think we have good a chance as any but Think fatigue will set in by the end (semis or final) Most of our first 11 have played alot of games and it takes the edge off performances

 

[BoroMart]

Think we have good a chance as any but Think fatigue will set in by the end (semis or final) Most of our first 11 have played alot of games and it takes the edge off performances

can we really have that excuse, other countries play just as many games, and many of the best players are in the prem playing the same number of games anyway

 

[Nero]

Those thinking England can win just need to look at the tournament history. There is nothing to suggest England will do much. If the players are thinking likewise they will fail.

One game at a time and see how things develop.

 

[WindyNook]

If we win our group which I think we will we play 2nd place of group F
Hungary Portugal France Germany. difficult
If we come second we play 2nd in group E
Spain Sweden Poland Slovakia slightly easier?
But then we play winner of group F in QF .
We are going to play some good teams but at our best I think we can win the competition. Time to get behind the team stick your flag on your car and crack a can of two!!!!

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

can we really have that excuse, other countries play just as many games, and many of the best players are in the prem playing the same number of games anyway

The players in the top clubs get plenty of rest through rotation as well, they're in very big, top quality squads.

 

[atypical_boro]

Looking at the history of the tournament Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal and the old USSR are the only countries to have reached the final multiple times.

Only Greece and the Netherlands are only time winners (both only appearing in one final too).

England are up against it in terms of reaching the latter stages let alone final.

Denmark surely?

 

[atypical_boro]

Those thinking England can win just need to look at the tournament history. There is nothing to suggest England will do much. If the players are thinking likewise they will fail.

One game at a time and see how things develop.

But the fact England have never won it is an anomaly, when you look at the economics of it all. 'Form' can be as much a reason to bet for something as it can be to bet against something. One day it will correct itself, though I agree it shouldn't be 'expected'.

 

[BoroMart]

Those thinking England can win just need to look at the tournament history. There is nothing to suggest England will do much. If the players are thinking likewise they will fail.

You play a tournament with your current squad not historical squads. It's irrelevant what we have done in the past. The biggest threat to a good performance is that some England fans are bringing right wing hate to the table and using it as a tool to attack and undermine an intellectual manager, and attack players that want to fight racism. It could ruin camp harmony....then again it might make an us and them mindset

 

[BoroMart]

The players in the top clubs get plenty of rest through rotation as well, they're in very big, top quality squads.

Fernandes 66
Dias 62
Rodri 61
MAGUIRE 58
B Silva 57
FODEN 56
Gundogan 54
STERLING 54
Lindelof 53
Cancelo 53
Pogba 52
WALKER 49
SHAW 49
De Bruyne 46
Torres 46
STONES 38
LaPorte 27
Ake 19

I'm not sure the english lads have been any more overworked than the other countries players.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

Fernandes 66
Dias 62
Rodri 61
MAGUIRE 58
B Silva 57
FODEN 56
Gundogan 54
STERLING 54
Lindelof 53
Cancelo 53
Pogba 52
WALKER 49
SHAW 49
De Bruyne 46
Torres 46
STONES 38
LaPorte 27
Ake 19

I'm not sure the english lads have been any more overworked than the other countries players.

Does that include appearances on the bench?